That is correct, and if we go on the past record and the Parole Board's performance, these types of people such as Olson, Bernardo, McClintic, Rafferty and others will not ever get out, but they will, as I said, get off on the gruesome details because they know that they can retraumatize, in this case from a distance. They did it to their victims, and they're doing it to the families.
