It's been very challenging to address situations where they do not involve traditional forms of hate.
When you're doing the intersection of anti-Zionism and anti-Semitism, there has to be a better understanding of what's being said and when it crosses the threshold into hate. When people are chanting that all Zionists are evil, genocidal and racist, without distinction, that crosses into hate speech. That's very different from criticizing Israel, its conduct, its policies, its government and the like. Those distinctions have to be better understood.