Evidence of meeting #11 for Medical Assistance in Dying in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was minors.

A video is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Ahona Mehdi  Member and Just Recovery Research Lead, Disability Justice Network of Ontario
Joint Chair  Hon. Yonah Martin (Senator, British Columbia, C)
Marie-Françoise Mégie  Senator, Quebec (Rougemont), ISG
Stanley Kutcher  Senator, Nova Scotia, ISG
Pierre Dalphond  Senator, Quebec (De Lorimier), PSG
Pamela Wallin  Senator, Saskatchewan, CSG
Constance MacIntosh  Professor of Law, As an Individual
Bryan Salte  Legal Counsel, College of Physicians and Surgeons of Saskatchewan
Franco Carnevale  Professor and Clinical Ethicist, As an Individual
Maria Alisha Montes  Clinical Associate Professor of Pediatrics, Memorial University, As an Individual

6:50 p.m.

Liberal

The Joint Chair Liberal Marc Garneau

I'm not going to get into an argument with you, Mr. Cooper. Your colleague must leave.

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Conservative

Michael Cooper Conservative St. Albert—Edmonton, AB

Well, I think, Mr. Chair, you're being very unreasonable, and again—

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Liberal

The Joint Chair Liberal Marc Garneau

I'm not going to sit here and argue with you.

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Conservative

Michael Cooper Conservative St. Albert—Edmonton, AB

—you're [Inaudible—Editor] typical Liberal [Inaudible—Editor]—

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Liberal

The Joint Chair Liberal Marc Garneau

Your colleague needs to leave. Are you going to call on your colleague to—

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Conservative

Michael Cooper Conservative St. Albert—Edmonton, AB

I encourage him not to leave.

6:50 p.m.

The Joint Chair Hon. Yonah Martin

Does he have the option to put a mask on now?

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Liberal

The Joint Chair Liberal Marc Garneau

Yes. He has the option of putting a mask on, which is what I asked him to do. He said no.

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Conservative

Michael Cooper Conservative St. Albert—Edmonton, AB

I would prefer that he stay.

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A voice

We're all also disabled. I would really recommend that you put it on for our sake, if not for anyone else's.

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Conservative

Michael Cooper Conservative St. Albert—Edmonton, AB

Well, then, maybe all of us should put on a mask, if that's the case.

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A voice

Fair enough. Put it on [Inaudible—Editor].

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Liberal

The Joint Chair Liberal Marc Garneau

I'm happy to put on a mask as well, but your colleague needs to put on a mask. Those are the rules of the Board of Internal Economy. I'm not going to bend on that.

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A voice

You're subject to different rules [Inaudible—Editor]. That's just the way it is. Put on your mask.

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A voice

He doesn't have parliamentary privilege.

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Conservative

Michael Cooper Conservative St. Albert—Edmonton, AB

[Inaudible—Editor] better put on your mask.

Let the double standard be noted.

6:50 p.m.

Liberal

The Joint Chair Liberal Marc Garneau

You bet I'll note what you have said tonight, Mr. Cooper. You're not following the rules of the Board of Internal Economy.

6:55 p.m.

Conservative

Michael Cooper Conservative St. Albert—Edmonton, AB

That's quite a double standard.

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Liberal

The Joint Chair Liberal Marc Garneau

Please, let's carry on.

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The Joint Chair Hon. Yonah Martin

We next have Mr. Maloney for five minutes.

June 6th, 2022 / 6:55 p.m.

Liberal

James Maloney Liberal Etobicoke—Lakeshore, ON

Thank you, Madam Chair.

I will start by apologizing to our two witnesses for your having to see what just happened. We're here to talk about very serious issues, issues that are dearly important to both of you, and it's unfortunate, to put it mildly, that we're having this other discussion in your presence—or at all—but so be it.

Thank you, both of you, for being here. Your evidence was very powerful and compelling. I have a number of questions.

First, just so I am clear—and my question is for both witnesses—are you opposed to medically assisted dying in any circumstance or just in specific circumstances?

I'll start with you, Ms. Mehdi.

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Member and Just Recovery Research Lead, Disability Justice Network of Ontario

Ahona Mehdi

As I said, I do believe in the right to choose, but I don't think this is a choice when you are forced to pick between two egregious options, so when we are not funding things like home care—

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Liberal

James Maloney Liberal Etobicoke—Lakeshore, ON

Okay. I'll get into that, but my question is very simple.

So there are circumstances where you feel it's appropriate and acceptable?

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Member and Just Recovery Research Lead, Disability Justice Network of Ontario

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Liberal

James Maloney Liberal Etobicoke—Lakeshore, ON

Thank you. I appreciate that.

Mr. Henry, what about you, sir? Do you feel the same or are you opposed to it generally?