I think it's incredibly important to make sure that this is where we have to go—beyond the policy, beyond the doctrine, into action. I'm a little concerned right now that we're still at a point where it hasn't gone deep enough yet. In terms of the Canadian Armed Forces or the RCMP or other police officers who get deployed, we need to make sure that the practical, scenario-based training has occurred. It has to be ingrained as part of the training. I know we're working toward that, but we haven't had that happen yet. That has to happen.
The other point I want to make clear is that we have to have a lessons learned approach to this too. We have to make sure there's a feedback loop so that once we send out the troops with this training, they come back and then we can ask those kinds of questions.
About seven years ago, I asked the Canadian Armed Forces psychologist who was leading aspects on PTSD for the troops how many troops had faced this issue in the field. He told me there were none. I asked how he knew there were none. Had he asked the question? He replied they didn't ask the question. I asked why not, and he said they had enough questions to answer already when they come back. I said that one more question wasn't going to kill the questionnaire.
My point is that we also have to ask the question to understand how prevalent it is, and then put into action matters that can address it and be ready to follow that up and adjust the training and the lessons learned in the approach and have new therapies and things that we have to be ready to commit to changing as well.