I think it's working extremely well. Maybe it's my good training over at National Defence in working with the Canadian Armed Forces.
Interestingly, with regard to the countries that I'm dealing with, these are very experienced military officers. They defer to me as the civilian; I defer to them for their military expertise. They understand intrinsically what it means to have, not so much civilian control, but what I prefer to call democratic accountability of the armed forces. We have a very good relationship. It works well, and I think we present well to the Ukrainians in terms of a model of how it should be.