Again, that's a very difficult question.
How does it impact the security of the work? There are a great deal of challenges. We are reliant on our contractors to be following the rules, but the contractors don't have the same goals as the National Defence employees. National Defence employees want to make National Defence work. They want the operation to be successful. They want to serve Canadians. Contractors want to make money. That's what their goal is. They want to create profit sharing for their shareholders. They want to increase revenue for the owners. That is what their goal is.
When you have these two compromising goals, it doesn't necessarily work. You end up with corners getting cut. I used the example at a DND medical centre. You have employees who are cutting the chemicals, so you don't have the appropriate cleansers in there. You don't have the knowledge going into the training that happens with it. We see that time and again. I would say—