I have a question for Mr. Lee, following up on your testimony, and I appreciate the conversation I had with you previously. You've elaborated in some ways about some of the frustrations with the privately owned forest lands. But I understand that a good number of the members in your association are the big guys like J.D. Irving, Limited; Acadian Timber Corp.; Island Timberlands; and so forth. These aren't small little woodlot owners where they harvest their wood sustainably for their own use.
You raised the concern about the application of the Species At Risk Act to the private landowners. Two questions I will put to you. First, isn't it also the case that, for example, J.D. Irving not only would own private lands but may well be harvesting on public lands, so obviously we should balance off? If we're not going to move to protect the habitat on their private lands, perhaps we have to protect the habitat on the adjacent public lands. Maybe you could speak to that.
You did talk to me about some of the frustrations that the private owners have been facing, because they're actually trying to negotiate conservation agreements where there can be more flexibility. I can assure you that even the environmental community that testified previously when I was in the environment committee are frustrated with the delay in not only the recovery strategies but the action plans. There's been a lot of support across the board for conservation agreements, and possibly that could include management of multiple species.
So I wonder if you could just share with us a bit more about what you've been trying to pursue and where you might seek support to move forward.