Evidence of meeting #51 for Natural Resources in the 41st Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was pipelines.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Jeff Labonté  Director General, Energy Safety and Security Branch, Energy Sector, Department of Natural Resources
Joseph McHattie  Legal Counsel, Department of Natural Resources
Terence Hubbard  Director General, Petroleum Resources Branch, Energy Sector, Department of Natural Resources
Clerk of the Committee  Mr. Rémi Bourgault

5:25 p.m.

Conservative

Kelly Block Conservative Saskatoon—Rosetown—Biggar, SK

I have concerns with that, given that we will then only see the amendments a couple of days before, if not just the day before, clause-by-clause study. While I recognize that the opposition would like this time, we're still a week away from March 31.

Perhaps some of the questions that you already have and that you would like to see put to the officials could be done this week and all of next week.

I would suggest that we push it to Monday, April 13. That would give the clerk time to collate the amendments, and then we'd have an opportunity to see them a day or two before we're going to be discussing them at clause-by-clause study.

5:30 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Leon Benoit

You've heard an alternate proposal.

Monsieur Caron.

5:30 p.m.

NDP

Guy Caron NDP Rimouski-Neigette—Témiscouata—Les Basques, QC

Mr. Chair, I would like to put a question to the clerk.

When the amendments are tabled, how much time does it usually take before we have them in our hands?

March 24th, 2015 / 5:30 p.m.

The Clerk of the Committee Mr. Rémi Bourgault

It can take about 24 hours, depending on their complexity. They all have to be put in order and we may receive them all at the last minute on April 13.

What time did you have in mind, Ms. Block?

I don't know what time you have in mind for April 13.

5:30 p.m.

Conservative

Kelly Block Conservative Saskatoon—Rosetown—Biggar, SK

Well, end of day.

5:30 p.m.

The Clerk

Okay, end of day.

If it is around 4 o'clock, you would probably not receive them on April 13 because they all have to be collated.

5:30 p.m.

NDP

Guy Caron NDP Rimouski-Neigette—Témiscouata—Les Basques, QC

Ms. Block, you suggested Monday, April 13. We suggested Wednesday, April 15. Could we compromise and choose Tuesday, April 14?

I think that should give us enough time. We should be able to provide the questions after having dealt with the...

5:30 p.m.

Conservative

Kelly Block Conservative Saskatoon—Rosetown—Biggar, SK

I had actually suggested April 10.

I just think we want to have an opportunity to do due diligence in looking at the amendments, understanding the implications that an amendment might have on the legislation.

You want to submit them by the end of the day on April 14. Does that give them to us potentially at the end of the day on April 15?

5:30 p.m.

The Clerk

I don't want to get involved in the discussions or the negotiation, but if you choose April 14, around noon,

we may have a chance to get them delivered to everybody earlier than at the end of the day on April 15.

5:30 p.m.

Conservative

Kelly Block Conservative Saskatoon—Rosetown—Biggar, SK

Sure, okay.

5:30 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Leon Benoit

Noon on April 14. Is there agreement?

5:30 p.m.

Conservative

Kelly Block Conservative Saskatoon—Rosetown—Biggar, SK

Sure.

5:30 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Leon Benoit

Could we have the clerk draft the appropriate motion? That motion will also apply to independents. They have until that same time and then proceed in that fashion.

Is it agreed?

(Motion agreed to [See Minutes of Proceedings])

Thank you, all.

Yes, Monsieur Caron.

5:30 p.m.

NDP

Guy Caron NDP Rimouski-Neigette—Témiscouata—Les Basques, QC

Mr. Chair, I would like to ask a few brief questions about the witnesses.

We had asked to hear Ian Miron, from the Ecojustice organization. He has already been accepted as a witness and he will appear. However, according to what I understood, his hotel stay in Ottawa has not been authorized. Am I mistaken?

5:30 p.m.

The Clerk

Yes.

5:30 p.m.

NDP

Guy Caron NDP Rimouski-Neigette—Témiscouata—Les Basques, QC

So his accommodation costs would be covered?

5:30 p.m.

The Clerk

Yes, I answered him about that.

5:30 p.m.

NDP

Guy Caron NDP Rimouski-Neigette—Témiscouata—Les Basques, QC

Perfect.

5:30 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Leon Benoit

Okay.

5:30 p.m.

NDP

Guy Caron NDP Rimouski-Neigette—Témiscouata—Les Basques, QC

I have a second question about the witness list.

We were told that our list was closed, but we would have liked to hear representatives from the Union des producteurs agricoles because certain provisions greatly affect farmers. We would like to give them the opportunity of testifying about their concerns. Would it be possible to add the UPA to the list of witnesses?

5:30 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Leon Benoit

You know, I think we're into an area that.... If we're going to have a meeting to discuss this, we'll have to have an in camera meeting. We're out of time. I was counting on just dealing with the issue of the amendment deadline, very quickly.

5:30 p.m.

NDP

Guy Caron NDP Rimouski-Neigette—Témiscouata—Les Basques, QC

You understand what I mean, Mr. Chair?

5:30 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Leon Benoit

We could do that.

I'll have to have a look at it, but we can....

5:30 p.m.

The Clerk

It is late to do that on Thursday because it is for the following Tuesday.

5:30 p.m.

NDP

Guy Caron NDP Rimouski-Neigette—Témiscouata—Les Basques, QC

Could we discuss this informally at the end of the committee meeting?