Yes. I think one of the parts of energy efficiency that is so interesting is it's one of the few solutions out there where you can clearly see the return on investment. In our case, because we are a regulated entity, we have to be able to measure all the money we spend, all the savings we generate with that spending to report back to the regulator and to show that return on investment.
Even when we talk about investing in industrial facilities, we are often asked why we would have to give incentives to companies where there is that return on investment. Would they not be making those investments on their own? One of the things we've seen in our own calculations is that for every dollar we spend on incentives, large companies are spending two to three dollars in additional project costs.
As you can imagine, the types of projects you're doing in energy efficiency are bringing in local businesses to install those projects. They're purchasing that equipment or those building supplies in the local economy. In terms of that return on investment, yes, there are the bill savings, the carbon reduction, but there's also the additional spending it generates within those companies in the local economy.