Natural Resources Committee on Oct. 30th, 2023

[Garnett Genuis, Conservative, Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB]

I'm sorry, Chair, but I just have a point of order before we start. May I be recognized for that?

[The Chair, Liberal, George Chahal]

Of course you may. Go ahead on a point of order.

[Garnett Genuis, Conservative, Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB]

Thank you, Chair.

It is a great pleasure to be here at the natural resources committee.

It's great to see my friend, Ms. Chagger, here as well. That's the main reason I came.

Could I get my name added to the speakers list? I just want to clarify the process for that.

Thank you very much, Chair. Congratulations on your role as well.

[The Chair, Liberal, George Chahal]

Thank you.

Monsieur Simard, the floor is yours.

[Mario Simard, Bloc, Jonquière, QC]

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

I like Ms. Stubbs a lot, but I'm going to be forced to say something she won't like. We've already discussed Bill C‑69. The amendment she's proposing is subject to the same objections that I had in that case. First, Bill C‑69 was introduced in another parliament, and it also concerned the environment. Consequently, I don't see why the Standing Committee on Natural Resources should study it before considering bills C‑49 and C‑50.

Furthermore, but in the judgment rendered by the Supreme Court, deadlines were established for the government to comply with that decision. So let's let the government try to comply with the Supreme Court's judgment and set aside Bill C‑69.

We've thoroughly discussed Ms. Stubbs' motion to amend. I think we've exhausted the matter, and I therefore request a vote.

[The Chair, Liberal, George Chahal]

Thank you, Monsieur Simard, for your comments.

If it's the will of the committee to go to a vote....

We do have a speaking order.

[Jeremy Patzer, Conservative, Cypress Hills—Grasslands, SK]

I have a point of order, Mr. Chair.

[The Chair, Liberal, George Chahal]

I just want to finish and then you can go to your point of order.

Monsieur Simard did ask for a vote. If it's the will of the committee to go to a vote, then we can go to a vote, but we do have a speaking order as well. I will ask committee members. He has proposed that question. If you believe that it has been covered, then we can go to a vote. If we want to proceed and need to debate this further, then that's your choice.

[Jeremy Patzer, Conservative, Cypress Hills—Grasslands, SK]

That is part of the point of order, Chair.

[The Chair, Liberal, George Chahal]

All right, I'll go to your point of order now.

[Jeremy Patzer, Conservative, Cypress Hills—Grasslands, SK]

I'm just seeking clarity.

There is a standing order that says unless a time limit has been adopted by the committee or the House—and we've obviously extended well beyond our usual sitting time, so there's clearly not a time limit. Standing Order 116(2)(a) says that “the Chair...may not bring a debate to an end while there are members present who still wish to participate.”

As you've referenced, there is a speakers list. There are many members who still would like to participate. I do think it's not appropriate at this time to be calling for a vote.

[The Chair, Liberal, George Chahal]

Thank you for your point of order.

We will proceed down the speaking list. We'll go to Mr. Falk.

[Ted Falk, Conservative, Provencher, MB]

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

[Marc Serré, Liberal, Nickel Belt, ON]

Mr. Chair, I have a point of order.

I was here four hours ago and I've come back. I see there are Jeremy, Ted and Garnett. They've all asked to be acknowledged. I just want to understand who the members across the way are. I'm just asking a question.

[Garnett Genuis, Conservative, Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB]

I have a point of order.

I'm subbing for Maninder, who's not here.

[Marc Serré, Liberal, Nickel Belt, ON]

Can we just get who's voting? Who's a member? That's all.

[The Chair, Liberal, George Chahal]

Thank you for your point of order, Mr. Serré. It's a very good question.

We believe there are additional members. Ms. Stubbs, Mr. Patzer, Mr. Falk and Mr. Genuis are here as members who are eligible right now to vote on behalf of the Conservatives, and we have Ms. Gazan here filling in for Mr. Angus.

I hope that's clear.

[Marc Serré, Liberal, Nickel Belt, ON]

Thank you.

[Jeremy Patzer, Conservative, Cypress Hills—Grasslands, SK]

Mr. Chair, on that point of order, I do believe that if any member wants to sit at the table as an elected member of Parliament, they're able.... To your point, there's only a certain list that can vote, but if others want to be part of the debate, they are allowed to be part of the debate.

[The Chair, Liberal, George Chahal]

Thank you for your point of order. I can't accept your point of order because—

[Garnett Genuis, Conservative, Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB]

I have a point of order, then.

[The Chair, Liberal, George Chahal]

There you go. I have Mr. Genuis on a point of order.

[Garnett Genuis, Conservative, Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB]

I'd like to confirm that Mr. Viersen is on the speaking list.

[The Chair, Liberal, George Chahal]

Mr. Genuis, thank you for your point of order—

[Garnett Genuis, Conservative, Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB]

I thought of it myself.