Evidence of meeting #80 for Natural Resources in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was point.
A recording is available from Parliament.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal George Chahal
I will remind members that a ruling on privilege was made and upheld by this committee. If members want to challenge the chair on a speaking order, they have the right to do so.
I would request, as Ms. Dabrusin has recognized, that a member challenge the chair on the speaking order, and we can go to a committee vote. That would be the committee's decision at that point.
However, I have recognized, post the ruling that was made and upheld, that Mr. Angus has the floor on the subamendment.
Conservative
Liberal
The Chair Liberal George Chahal
Mr. Genuis on a point of order.
I'd ask, if it is the same point of order again, that you challenge the chair on the speaking order.
Conservative
Garnett Genuis Conservative Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB
Chair, I think, respectfully, that you are confused about two different rulings.
There is the question of whether the privilege motion that I raised pertained to privilege, and you ruled—
Conservative
Garnett Genuis Conservative Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB
—in the end, that it did not. That question is distinct from—
Conservative
John Williamson Conservative New Brunswick Southwest, NB
Mr. Falk has been waiting here patiently.
Should we not be taking points of order and running through them one at a time?
Liberal
The Chair Liberal George Chahal
Mr. Williamson, I'm trying to recognize members, and his point of order on Mr. Genuis's point of order, so I'm not getting into debate with you.
Conservative
John Williamson Conservative New Brunswick Southwest, NB
The person who speaks the loudest shouldn't be able to overrule any member who already has the floor.
Conservative
John Williamson Conservative New Brunswick Southwest, NB
That's what he is doing. He's been sitting there barking into his mike thinking he gets the floor.
November 1st, 2023 / 6:25 p.m.
Liberal
Bloc
Mario Simard Bloc Jonquière, QC
Pardon me. Just for the sake of the interpreters and their mental health, would you please speak one at a time? I think they're going crazy on the other side.
If you can speak one at a time and refrain from crosstalk, I'm sure the interpreters will be quite content.
NDP
Charlie Angus NDP Timmins—James Bay, ON
Merci.
My point of order is that Mr. Genuis continues to try to obstruct. He needs to challenge the chair. Otherwise, we have to move on.
If he is willing to challenge the chair, then he can get his way, but if he isn't, he has to stop this pattern of trying to stop other MPs from participating in the committee.
I would ask you, Chair, to ask Mr. Genuis whether or not he is actually going to challenge the chair, or if this is just a tactic to stop other MPs from speaking on some very important legislation.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal George Chahal
On the point of order that Mr. Angus has raised....
Mr. Simard, thank you for reminding, first of all, our colleagues and everybody here of the importance of one member speaking at a time. It is important, as stated in the last meeting. When we are all speaking into the mikes, it's difficult for the interpreters, number one, for their health and safety, but also for them to do their job. They are doing an amazing job of providing interpretation services to the committee here today and in the past and in the future. We want to make sure that everybody is working in a safe work environment.
I will not entertain any more points of order on this matter. Unless you would like to challenge the chair on the speaking order—
Conservative
Garnett Genuis Conservative Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB
Mr. Chair, I was in the middle of a point of order when I was interrupted on that point of order by Mr. Angus. I was in the middle of a point of order.
Liberal
Liberal