What we have at CBC Radio-Canada is a hybrid model. For years, government has said and the CRTC has said that if you want to continue, we're not going to provide you with more dollars, but if you want to continue delivering new services to Canadians, then you have to do it on your own, and that's what we have gone out and done.
There's about $400 million to $500 million of commercial revenues generally, and subscription revenues, and revenues from rental of our facilities, and from all other initiatives that come to add to the billion dollars in order to deliver in this environment, in a complicated environment, services to Canadians. That's the business model.