They didn't share those numbers with us. For the inmate OL population, they didn't share the exact number. I just don't think they knew the number that day when we visited. But we did meet with several English-speaking inmates. Don't forget that there's a very large Inuit population, or a disproportional Inuit population, so the institution is actually working in four languages: English, French, Inuit, and Cree. There's an aboriginal language angle as well.
We heard instances where English inmates had to transfer from minimum security institutions to medium security institutions to get access to the programs they needed to go before the Parole Board.
We also heard stories of English inmates who were incarcerated past their parole date because there were no English-speaking places for them in halfway houses in Montreal. If that's the case in Montreal, you can imagine what the situation is like in Quebec City. You can imagine what the situation might be like for a francophone inmate finding a French bed in a halfway house in Calgary or Edmonton.
These are systemic problems that CSC has in managing its OL commitments.