Evidence of meeting #38 for Official Languages in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was point.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Denis Chartrand  President, Association des conseils scolaires des écoles publiques de l'Ontario
Sophie Bouffard  President, Université de Saint-Boniface
Clerk of the Committee  Ms. Michelle Legault

11:20 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal René Arseneault

So they can't stand alone.

11:20 a.m.

Bloc

Mario Beaulieu Bloc La Pointe-de-l'Île, QC

Yes, just as theirs can't stand alone.

11:20 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal René Arseneault

Forget about theirs. Mr. Godin moved a motion containing a series of amendments. It's already done.

11:20 a.m.

Bloc

Mario Beaulieu Bloc La Pointe-de-l'Île, QC

I can send them to you in writing too—

11:20 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal René Arseneault

What I mean is that if we vote on the subamendment you've moved and then you come back with your other subamendments—

11:20 a.m.

Bloc

Mario Beaulieu Bloc La Pointe-de-l'Île, QC

That's not going to work.

11:20 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal René Arseneault

All right. In that case, go ahead.

11:20 a.m.

Bloc

Mario Beaulieu Bloc La Pointe-de-l'Île, QC

On point four—

11:20 a.m.

Conservative

Bernard Généreux Conservative Montmagny—L'Islet—Kamouraska—Rivière-du-Loup, QC

I have a point of order, Mr. Chair.

11:20 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal René Arseneault

Yes, Mr. Généreux.

11:20 a.m.

Conservative

Bernard Généreux Conservative Montmagny—L'Islet—Kamouraska—Rivière-du-Loup, QC

Mr. Chair, Mr. Beaulieu just said he can send the series of subamendments he wants to move to you or to the clerk. Could we get a copy?

11:25 a.m.

Bloc

Mario Beaulieu Bloc La Pointe-de-l'Île, QC

Sure.

11:25 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal René Arseneault

We would really appreciate it.

11:25 a.m.

Bloc

Mario Beaulieu Bloc La Pointe-de-l'Île, QC

I don't know if they've been sent already. If not, they're in the process of being sent to the clerk.

11:25 a.m.

The Clerk

What I've received are the two motions to change the dates on points one and two of Mr. Serré's motion, as amended by Mr. Godin, by replacing November 24 with Tuesday, December 6, and then—

11:25 a.m.

Bloc

Mario Beaulieu Bloc La Pointe-de-l'Île, QC

You've received the whole motion.

11:25 a.m.

The Clerk

I just received an email. Do I have your permission to circulate the full document I just received?

11:25 a.m.

Bloc

Mario Beaulieu Bloc La Pointe-de-l'Île, QC

Yes.

11:25 a.m.

The Clerk

It's been sent.

11:25 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal René Arseneault

All right. I think we all just received it.

Mr. Beaulieu, you can keep going and refer to your document. In fact, that will make it easier for everyone.

11:25 a.m.

Bloc

Mario Beaulieu Bloc La Pointe-de-l'Île, QC

Great.

Regarding the amendments to point two of Mr. Serré's motion, you can read what I just mentioned. I don't think I need to repeat it, but I can if you want.

As for point three of Mr. Serré's motion, we're not touching it. It calls for the clerk of the committee to write immediately to each member who is not a member of a caucus represented on the committee and to invite them to prepare and submit any proposed amendments.

On point four, to make it consistent with point two, we move that Mr. Godin's amendment be amended by replacing “no later than Tuesday, November 29, 2022, at 11:00 a.m. ET” with “no earlier than December 8, 2022, at 11:00 a.m. ET”.

Next, in the sentence “the committee proceed with clause-by-clause consideration of the Bill no later than Tuesday, November 29, 2022, at 11:00 a.m. ET”, we move that the date be changed to Thursday, December 8, 2022.

Lastly, we move that point five be deleted from Mr. Serré's motion and replaced with the following text, which I started to explain earlier:

That, in the context of the clause-by-clause study of Bill C‑13, the committee study, on a priority basis, the amendments that take the place of the requests of the Government of Quebec and the Francophone communities outside Quebec, namely: 1. That Bill C‑13, in Clause 2, be amended by replacing line 17 on page 1 to line 16 on page 2 with the following: “AND WHEREAS the Government of Canada is committed to respecting Quebec's choices regarding its language management, provided for in the Charter of the French Language;” 2. That Bill C‑13, in Clause 2, be amended a. by deleting lines 19 to 44 on page 2. b. by replacing line 6 on page 3 with the following: “that French is the official and common language of Quebec,” c. by replacing lines 16 to 29 on page 3 with the following: “AND WHEREAS the Government of Canada recognizes that English or French linguistic minority communities are present in every province and territory and that the English linguistic minority community in Quebec and the French linguistic minority communities in the other provinces and territories have different needs; AND WHEREAS the Government of Canada recognizes that the existence of a majority-French society in a Quebec where the future of French is assured is a legitimate objective and a fundamental principle of the Canadian official languages regime;” 3. That Bill C‑13, in Clause 3, be amended by replacing line 39 on page 3 with the following—

11:30 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal René Arseneault

Mr. Beaulieu, I apologize, but I'm going back to my original idea. We're going to talk about your first subamendment, because now you're suggesting amendments to the bill before we've even heard from all the witnesses and carried out the clause-by-clause study. We can't have that. That's not a subamendment to Mr. Godin's amendment. Far from it.

11:30 a.m.

Bloc

Mario Beaulieu Bloc La Pointe-de-l'Île, QC

If I can just—

11:30 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal René Arseneault

If you don't mind, we'll start with the parts relating to Mr. Godin's amendments.

11:30 a.m.

Bloc

Mario Beaulieu Bloc La Pointe-de-l'Île, QC

Can I just comment on what you just said?