Evidence of meeting #38 for Official Languages in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was point.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Denis Chartrand  President, Association des conseils scolaires des écoles publiques de l'Ontario
Sophie Bouffard  President, Université de Saint-Boniface
Clerk of the Committee  Ms. Michelle Legault

1 p.m.

Conservative

Joël Godin Conservative Portneuf—Jacques-Cartier, QC

I have a point of order, Mr. Chair. I want to go back to your reply to Mr. Serré.

I would like your opinion on my procedural comment. Is it true that the committee can decide at any time to end the clause-by-clause study?

I gave this as additional information.

1 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal René Arseneault

Just a moment, everyone.

I answered that question. I mentioned one extreme but not the other. At one extreme, the committee can continue a study ad vitam aeternam. At the other, of course, the committee is free to do whatever it wants through votes. You are absolutely right.

1 p.m.

Conservative

Joël Godin Conservative Portneuf—Jacques-Cartier, QC

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Now it's clear.

1 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal René Arseneault

Ultimately, only the House of Commons can impose a deadline on the committee. That is my understanding of our rules.

1 p.m.

Conservative

Joël Godin Conservative Portneuf—Jacques-Cartier, QC

It is also my understanding, Mr. Chair, that the House can impose that. However, I think we can decide that here at committee, as well.

1 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal René Arseneault

We can decide anything, in the context of our committee.

1 p.m.

Conservative

Joël Godin Conservative Portneuf—Jacques-Cartier, QC

That is why I wanted to make that clear, Mr. Chair. We have control, but unfortunately, if we do a quick count, we understand that the opposition parties, the Conservative Party and the Bloc Québécois, do not have a majority. So, there is no need to worry.

1 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal René Arseneault

That's called democracy, Mr. Godin.

1 p.m.

Conservative

Joël Godin Conservative Portneuf—Jacques-Cartier, QC

Absolutely, Mr. Chair. I'm not questioning that. I'm simply stating the facts.

1 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal René Arseneault

Mr. Beaulieu, go ahead please.

1 p.m.

Bloc

Mario Beaulieu Bloc La Pointe-de-l'Île, QC

I have a point of order, Mr. Chair. Could we proceed clause by clause with the amendment if we had unanimous consent?

1 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal René Arseneault

You meant right now?

1 p.m.

Bloc

Mario Beaulieu Bloc La Pointe-de-l'Île, QC

Yes.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal René Arseneault

I'm not sure I understood your question correctly. You are asking whether the committee can decide unanimously to proceed with clause-by-clause consideration.

1 p.m.

Bloc

Mario Beaulieu Bloc La Pointe-de-l'Île, QC

Yes.

1 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal René Arseneault

The answer is no, we couldn't do that right now. There is a minimum procedure to follow. The legislative clerk must be notified, documents must be produced so that they're on hand—

1 p.m.

Bloc

Mario Beaulieu Bloc La Pointe-de-l'Île, QC

No, that's not what I meant.

When we dealt with my subamendment earlier, we did it point by point. Since Mr. Godin presented a set of proposals at another meeting, I wanted to know if we would proceed point by point with the unanimous consent of the committee.

1 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal René Arseneault

I'm sorry, I totally misunderstood what you said. I apologize.

Absolutely, Mr. Beaulieu. I'm sorry, I thought you were talking about doing clause-by-clause right away.

1 p.m.

Bloc

Mario Beaulieu Bloc La Pointe-de-l'Île, QC

I would like to propose it and seek unanimous consent.

1 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal René Arseneault

We are currently dealing with Mr. Godin's amendment.

1 p.m.

Bloc

Mario Beaulieu Bloc La Pointe-de-l'Île, QC

I would like to propose that we look at these points one by one.

1 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal René Arseneault

As we did with your subamendments.

1 p.m.

Bloc

Mario Beaulieu Bloc La Pointe-de-l'Île, QC

Yes, if there is unanimous consent.

1 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal René Arseneault

If there is unanimous consent, then no problem.

I took the liberty of asking you to proceed in one block. I don't wish to repeat myself, but I let Mr. Godin present his amendment in one block. It was later suggested that we deal with the elements of his amendment one by one.

Is there unanimous consent to vote on one proposal at a time, as suggested by Mr. Beaulieu? In other words, are we going to vote on all five of Mr. Godin's amendments separately or as a whole?

1 p.m.

Conservative

Joël Godin Conservative Portneuf—Jacques-Cartier, QC

I give you my personal consent, Mr. Chair, and that of the Conservative Party of Canada, of course.

This allows us to have our say on each of the points.