Thank you, Mr. d'Entremont.
Mr. Beaulieu, you have the floor for two and a half minutes.
Evidence of meeting #37 for Official Languages in the 45th Parliament, 1st session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was burke.
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal Yvan Baker
Thank you, Mr. d'Entremont.
Mr. Beaulieu, you have the floor for two and a half minutes.
Bloc
Mario Beaulieu Bloc La Pointe-de-l'Île, QC
Thank you.
Ms. Burke, in response to my earlier question about WestJet, you said the company should hire only bilingual employees everywhere. Do you think that's realistic, outside Quebec?
Commissioner of Official Languages, Office of the Commissioner of Official Languages
What I said was private companies should hire as many bilingual people as possible across the country. You're right. The reality on the ground is—
Bloc
Mario Beaulieu Bloc La Pointe-de-l'Île, QC
Isn't it discriminatory to require only bilingual staff in Quebec?
Commissioner of Official Languages, Office of the Commissioner of Official Languages
What I'm saying regarding the company's hiring practices, and what I support, is that, as much as possible, with its current and future staff, it should be able to provide service to both the anglophone and francophone communities across the country.
Bloc
Mario Beaulieu Bloc La Pointe-de-l'Île, QC
You're not answering my question. We can also provide service to both communities by having unilingual French staff if another employee can take over. I think it's a bit excessive to require knowledge of English for all employees in Quebec.
Commissioner of Official Languages, Office of the Commissioner of Official Languages
Is that the requirement of WestJet right now?
Commissioner of Official Languages, Office of the Commissioner of Official Languages
That will be something to assess.
Bloc
Mario Beaulieu Bloc La Pointe-de-l'Île, QC
Okay. That's perfect.
Talking about Quebec, you said having two regimes in the same territory made things more complicated. Personally, I think having two competing regimes will lead to less efficiency, because, as you said, people won't know where to go to file a complaint, among other things.
Can you tell us more about how to make that clearer and more effective?
Commissioner of Official Languages, Office of the Commissioner of Official Languages
A lot of education would be needed. As I said at the outset, I believe the public, employers, consumers and employees will be lost in a brand new system. Over time, it may get better. However, it will definitely take a lot of education to operate with two legislative frameworks that explain obligations and duties differently.
Bloc
Mario Beaulieu Bloc La Pointe-de-l'Île, QC
That's right.
Do you think it would have ultimately been simpler to have just one plan?
Commissioner of Official Languages, Office of the Commissioner of Official Languages
I leave it to politicians and parliamentarians to decide what the best path forward will be for the time being.
Bloc
Mario Beaulieu Bloc La Pointe-de-l'Île, QC
Are you talking with the Office québécois de la langue française?
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Yvan Baker
Mr. Beaulieu, your time is up.
Commissioner, I'll let you answer with one sentence, and then I'm going to interrupt you.
Commissioner of Official Languages, Office of the Commissioner of Official Languages
Not at the moment, Mr. Beaulieu, but we very much look forward to working with the Office on this new act, once it comes into force.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Yvan Baker
Thank you, Mr. Beaulieu.
Mr. Godin, you have the floor for five minutes.
Conservative
Joël Godin Conservative Portneuf—Jacques-Cartier, QC
Thank you, Mr. Chair.
Commissioner, you said earlier that the terms “service” and “consumer” are ill-defined. You also mentioned something else that I unfortunately didn't take note of. Is it possible for you to repeat those three points?
Commissioner of Official Languages, Office of the Commissioner of Official Languages
Sure. The word “consumer” used in clause 7 of the act is not defined.
Conservative
Commissioner of Official Languages, Office of the Commissioner of Official Languages
I had mentioned “service” and “communication“.
Conservative
Commissioner of Official Languages, Office of the Commissioner of Official Languages
For “service” and “communication”, we propose to use the act as a model—
Conservative
Joël Godin Conservative Portneuf—Jacques-Cartier, QC
That's fine. I just wanted to remember the three terms. Thank you. I'll take note of them and we'll probably make a recommendation on that. It was very relevant.
Let's talk about registries.
There's a lot of laxness in the act at the moment, I would say. We're talking about annual statement, annual compliance renewal and certification sent by the minister.
Would it be more effective, more rigorous, to have a registry? Also, what will happen when people don't comply and don't register? What are your thoughts on that?
Commissioner of Official Languages, Office of the Commissioner of Official Languages
In terms of compliance and consequences, we noted that it's not specified in the act. As far as the registry is concerned, I think it'll help us a great deal to have a very simple, up‑to‑date registry that meets the needs of any person and entity taking part in the exercise.