Evidence of meeting #37 for Official Languages in the 45th Parliament, 1st session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was burke.

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On the agenda

Members speaking

Before the committee

Burke  Commissioner of Official Languages, Office of the Commissioner of Official Languages

The Chair Liberal Yvan Baker

Thank you, Mr. d'Entremont.

Mr. Beaulieu, you have the floor for two and a half minutes.

Mario Beaulieu Bloc La Pointe-de-l'Île, QC

Thank you.

Ms. Burke, in response to my earlier question about WestJet, you said the company should hire only bilingual employees everywhere. Do you think that's realistic, outside Quebec?

4:05 p.m.

Commissioner of Official Languages, Office of the Commissioner of Official Languages

Kelly Burke

What I said was private companies should hire as many bilingual people as possible across the country. You're right. The reality on the ground is—

Mario Beaulieu Bloc La Pointe-de-l'Île, QC

Isn't it discriminatory to require only bilingual staff in Quebec?

4:05 p.m.

Commissioner of Official Languages, Office of the Commissioner of Official Languages

Kelly Burke

What I'm saying regarding the company's hiring practices, and what I support, is that, as much as possible, with its current and future staff, it should be able to provide service to both the anglophone and francophone communities across the country.

Mario Beaulieu Bloc La Pointe-de-l'Île, QC

You're not answering my question. We can also provide service to both communities by having unilingual French staff if another employee can take over. I think it's a bit excessive to require knowledge of English for all employees in Quebec.

4:10 p.m.

Commissioner of Official Languages, Office of the Commissioner of Official Languages

Kelly Burke

Is that the requirement of WestJet right now?

Mario Beaulieu Bloc La Pointe-de-l'Île, QC

That's what we heard from WestJet.

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Commissioner of Official Languages, Office of the Commissioner of Official Languages

Kelly Burke

That will be something to assess.

Mario Beaulieu Bloc La Pointe-de-l'Île, QC

Okay. That's perfect.

Talking about Quebec, you said having two regimes in the same territory made things more complicated. Personally, I think having two competing regimes will lead to less efficiency, because, as you said, people won't know where to go to file a complaint, among other things.

Can you tell us more about how to make that clearer and more effective?

4:10 p.m.

Commissioner of Official Languages, Office of the Commissioner of Official Languages

Kelly Burke

A lot of education would be needed. As I said at the outset, I believe the public, employers, consumers and employees will be lost in a brand new system. Over time, it may get better. However, it will definitely take a lot of education to operate with two legislative frameworks that explain obligations and duties differently.

Mario Beaulieu Bloc La Pointe-de-l'Île, QC

That's right.

Do you think it would have ultimately been simpler to have just one plan?

June 2nd, 2026 / 4:10 p.m.

Commissioner of Official Languages, Office of the Commissioner of Official Languages

Kelly Burke

I leave it to politicians and parliamentarians to decide what the best path forward will be for the time being.

Mario Beaulieu Bloc La Pointe-de-l'Île, QC

Are you talking with the Office québécois de la langue française?

The Chair Liberal Yvan Baker

Mr. Beaulieu, your time is up.

Commissioner, I'll let you answer with one sentence, and then I'm going to interrupt you.

4:10 p.m.

Commissioner of Official Languages, Office of the Commissioner of Official Languages

Kelly Burke

Not at the moment, Mr. Beaulieu, but we very much look forward to working with the Office on this new act, once it comes into force.

The Chair Liberal Yvan Baker

Thank you, Mr. Beaulieu.

Mr. Godin, you have the floor for five minutes.

4:10 p.m.

Conservative

Joël Godin Conservative Portneuf—Jacques-Cartier, QC

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Commissioner, you said earlier that the terms “service” and “consumer” are ill-defined. You also mentioned something else that I unfortunately didn't take note of. Is it possible for you to repeat those three points?

4:10 p.m.

Commissioner of Official Languages, Office of the Commissioner of Official Languages

Kelly Burke

Sure. The word “consumer” used in clause 7 of the act is not defined.

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Conservative

Joël Godin Conservative Portneuf—Jacques-Cartier, QC

There was also the term “service”.

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Commissioner of Official Languages, Office of the Commissioner of Official Languages

Kelly Burke

I had mentioned “service” and “communication“.

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Conservative

Joël Godin Conservative Portneuf—Jacques-Cartier, QC

The third was “communication”.

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Commissioner of Official Languages, Office of the Commissioner of Official Languages

Kelly Burke

For “service” and “communication”, we propose to use the act as a model—

4:10 p.m.

Conservative

Joël Godin Conservative Portneuf—Jacques-Cartier, QC

That's fine. I just wanted to remember the three terms. Thank you. I'll take note of them and we'll probably make a recommendation on that. It was very relevant.

Let's talk about registries.

There's a lot of laxness in the act at the moment, I would say. We're talking about annual statement, annual compliance renewal and certification sent by the minister.

Would it be more effective, more rigorous, to have a registry? Also, what will happen when people don't comply and don't register? What are your thoughts on that?

4:10 p.m.

Commissioner of Official Languages, Office of the Commissioner of Official Languages

Kelly Burke

In terms of compliance and consequences, we noted that it's not specified in the act. As far as the registry is concerned, I think it'll help us a great deal to have a very simple, up‑to‑date registry that meets the needs of any person and entity taking part in the exercise.