Evidence of meeting #33 for Public Accounts in the 39th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was bélair.
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5:15 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Shawn Murphy
We can decide at the time. The motion is that we hold at least one more meeting. I sense there's consensus.
(Motion agreed to)
5:15 p.m.
NDP
David Christopherson NDP Hamilton Centre, ON
A point of order. I shouldn't have to, but could I ask that the Treasury Board Secretariat and the Department of National Defence be included as witnesses?
5:15 p.m.
Liberal
5:15 p.m.
Liberal
Borys Wrzesnewskyj Liberal Etobicoke Centre, ON
Just for additional clarification, we should have the individuals from the departments who took part in this process: Lieutenant-Colonel Jacques Taillefer, Major D'Amours de Courberon, and Mr. Gus MacIntosh. Just for further clarification, these are the individuals from those departments who were involved in the process.
5:15 p.m.
Conservative
Brian Fitzpatrick Conservative Prince Albert, SK
It may be useful, too.... We have Mr. Longfellow here. I thought he was the person who—
5:15 p.m.
A voice
Mr. Goodfellow.
5:15 p.m.
Conservative
Brian Fitzpatrick Conservative Prince Albert, SK
Or Mr. Goodfellow, sorry. He's a good fellow. He probably figures these meetings are fairly long, but he's a good fellow.
He's not really the person who constructed the proposal. The person who did it is somebody else, and it may be useful to have that person who was in charge of the team that actually put the proposal together in the first instance—maybe his name is Longfellow.
5:15 p.m.
Acting Assistant Deputy Minister, Acquisitions, Public Works and Government Services Canada
Mr. Goodfellow was accountable for working with departments for the 2004 process; he was not accountable for the 2002 process, so it would depend—
5:15 p.m.
Conservative
Brian Fitzpatrick Conservative Prince Albert, SK
That's what I'm getting at. My understanding is he used the proposal that had been made in 2002 and didn't really change it. So what I want is the guy who was in charge of the 2002 year. What's that person's name? You did give the name.
5:15 p.m.
Acting Assistant Deputy Minister, Acquisitions, Public Works and Government Services Canada
We provided it in the material that we provided, I believe.
5:20 p.m.
Bloc
Jean-Yves Laforest Bloc Saint-Maurice—Champlain, QC
As we are proposing names of witnesses to invite, I would like to note that this meeting should have been held in the presence of Deputy Minister David Marshall, as we had agreed at our last meeting, without having to summon him. I think that it is important for Mr. Marshall to be present at this meeting.
5:20 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Shawn Murphy
You're quite correct, and if we're coming back we'd invite the deputy. That's understood.
5:20 p.m.
Conservative
John Williams Conservative Edmonton—St. Albert, AB
Mr. Chairman, I'd have to leave it to you and the clerk to arrange a date for the meeting, based on the capacity of the witnesses to appear.
5:20 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Shawn Murphy
Yes, and I can assure you that it won't be until February of next year. Well, I shouldn't say that; I shouldn't be so quick.
I'm going to suspend. We're going to go in camera.
5:20 p.m.
Liberal
Borys Wrzesnewskyj Liberal Etobicoke Centre, ON
On a point of order, Chair, there are a couple of motions before the committee.
5:20 p.m.
Liberal
5:20 p.m.
Liberal
Borys Wrzesnewskyj Liberal Etobicoke Centre, ON
There's not a requirement that they be in camera, and I would prefer that those motions be deal with in public.
5:20 p.m.
NDP
David Christopherson NDP Hamilton Centre, ON
Mine is the other motion, and I would like it to be done in public too. There's no reason to go in camera.
5:20 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Shawn Murphy
There's no reason, but they're not related to this chapter. If you want to deal with them, I can.