Thank you very much, Chair. My thanks to all for presenting today.
I want to follow up on Mr. Williams' concerns about the relationship between the Ottawa Police Service and the RCMP. I think both of you will agree—I'll give you an opportunity to disagree if you wish—that in performing your duties in your respective services, you not only have to be fair and just, but you have to have the appearance of being fair and just. The concern here is that this relationship does not look very good.
As a former Ontario Solicitor General who has called in the RCMP when I had issues with the OPP, I can say that the important thing is the whole arm's-length relationship. Otherwise it doesn't work. The whole point of it is to make sure there isn't this kind of overlap.
Chief, I just want to get back to this issue. You were talking about the reporting mechanism being on the operational side. Has that been standard any other time you've gone into other police services?