Public Accounts Committee on May 7th, 2007

[David Christopherson, NDP, Hamilton Centre, ON]

That could be scary, sir.

Thank you.

[Brian Fitzpatrick, Conservative, Prince Albert, SK]

Mr. Chair, it's probably not really a point of order, but I think I have to say it. We have time to carry these proceedings on; the votes aren't until 6:30. I think all the members here know that there are things coming up here that we need more time on. I think that, as we've done before, we should try to extend these meetings as long as we can before the votes to try to get to the bottom of this thing.

[The Chair, Liberal, Shawn Murphy]

On this issue I'm totally in the hands of the committee.

[Brian Fitzpatrick, Conservative, Prince Albert, SK]

I'm sure everybody on the committee would give unanimous consent to this.

[The Chair, Liberal, Shawn Murphy]

What are the wishes?

Mr. Wrzesnewskyj.

[Borys Wrzesnewskyj, Liberal, Etobicoke Centre, ON]

Mr. Chair, I have a dinner with the Ukraine's foreign minister at six o'clock with our foreign minister, Peter MacKay. I would probably be able to stay until 5:45, but then I would be compelled to leave.

[David Christopherson, NDP, Hamilton Centre, ON]

We in the NDP—well, I, but I like to try—'d be quite prepared to stay, and perhaps we could give Borys an assurance that we wouldn't move any motions during that time so that we can achieve both.

[The Chair, Liberal, Shawn Murphy]

I sense a consensus.

[Jean-Yves Laforest, Bloc, Saint-Maurice—Champlain, QC]

What time is the vote scheduled for, Mr. Chairman?

[The Chair, Liberal, Shawn Murphy]

For 6:30 p.m.

[Jean-Yves Laforest, Bloc, Saint-Maurice—Champlain, QC]

When do you plan on adjourning?

[The Chair, Liberal, Shawn Murphy]

At 6:30; I sense that consensus is emerging to go to 6:30, and there will be no motions or committee votes.

We'll go to 6:30, and even with unanimous consent there are no votes.

Mr. Rota.

[Anthony Rota, Liberal, Nipissing—Timiskaming, ON]

I have a commitment at 5:30. I'm going to have to leave in a few minutes.

[Pierre Poilievre, Conservative, Nepean—Carleton, ON]

Is there unanimous consent?

[The Chair, Liberal, Shawn Murphy]

I think there is, under that condition.

[David Sweet, Conservative, Ancaster—Dundas—Flamborough—Westdale, ON]

There are a KPMG-2, a KPMG-3, and a KMPG-4 that Mr. Marshall mentioned, and we have, I believe, requested some forensic auditing help. These would probably flesh out even more details than what we have; we only have KPMG-1. I would ask that we direct them to table those other reports.

[The Chair, Liberal, Shawn Murphy]

So you're asking that KPMG-2, KPMG-3, and KPMG-4 be tabled with this committee.

[David Sweet, Conservative, Ancaster—Dundas—Flamborough—Westdale, ON]

The way Mr. Marshall described them, they were more fulsome investigations every time of this key issue, and if that's the case, then they would be of value to us.

[The Chair, Liberal, Shawn Murphy]

Mr. Marshall, I'll ask you to respond.

[David Marshall]

Mr. Chairman, we have had several requests under access to information for these different reports. We released several versions that have been severed because of individual names or individual privacy issues. I will table everything we can under that basis.

The first report certainly didn't come from Public Works, the unsevered version, although the committee now has it. It's very awkward, but we just have to respect the various rules around this matter.

I will comply with all of those.

[The Chair, Liberal, Shawn Murphy]

I can appreciate that. You'll be tabling the KPMG-2, KPMG-3, and KPMG-4 with some privacy issues dealt with.

[David Marshall]

Correct, I will.

[The Chair, Liberal, Shawn Murphy]

Thank you very much.

Mr. Marshall, can that be done reasonably promptly?

[David Marshall]

Yes.

[The Chair, Liberal, Shawn Murphy]

Mr. Wrzesnewskyj, for five minutes.