Evidence of meeting #59 for Public Accounts in the 39th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was dna.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Clerk of the Committee  Mr. Georges Etoka
Sheila Fraser  Auditor General of Canada, Office of the Auditor General of Canada
Beverley A. Busson  Commissioner, Royal Canadian Mounted Police
Commissioner Peter Martin  Deputy Commissioner, National Police Services, Royal Canadian Mounted Police
Commissioner Joe Buckle  Director General, Forensic Science and Identification Services, Royal Canadian Mounted Police
John Bowen  Director, Biology Services, Royal Canadian Mounted Police

5:20 p.m.

D/Commr Peter Martin

I want all these terms cleaned up, because they're confusing to me, and I'm responsible for this area. We have too many of them.

Being the best is not being the fastest. Being the best is listening to what the client's need is, and then meeting that client need. Because if a client needs the turnaround time in 30 days, doing it in 15 is a waste of money. We have lots of activities in the forensic lab and lots of priorities, so we need to invest to meet the client needs, and that's what we're going to do, but not necessarily be the best in terms of how quickly we get it out.

5:20 p.m.

Conservative

David Sweet Conservative Ancaster—Dundas—Flamborough—Westdale, ON

Good. No, I concur. Obviously that's good management.

Page 13 is what I was trying to ask you about last time, Deputy Commissioner.

In this model here, in exhibit 7.6, basically your expenditures for your department, for the forensic labs, are $9.4 million, and you have said that you reprofiled $5 million. Does that mean that we're now at a total there of $14.4 million?

5:20 p.m.

D/Commr Peter Martin

Yes.

5:20 p.m.

Conservative

David Sweet Conservative Ancaster—Dundas—Flamborough—Westdale, ON

Okay. So now, then, it is really critical to make sure we take a look at value for dollar, because we're way above what the other labs' cost of business is at present.

5:20 p.m.

D/Commr Peter Martin

Yes.

5:20 p.m.

Conservative

David Sweet Conservative Ancaster—Dundas—Flamborough—Westdale, ON

Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

5:20 p.m.

Conservative

The Vice-Chair Conservative Brian Fitzpatrick

I want to thank the witnesses today. That was a very good session, very informative. Top-notch day, so I thank all the witnesses who are here today.

I will declare this meeting adjourned.

Thank you very much.