Evidence of meeting #67 for Public Accounts in the 39th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was asked.
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Conservative
The Vice-Chair Conservative Brian Fitzpatrick
Ms. Sgro, we're getting into a point of debate here. A motion has been made, and it's not going to carry. We didn't have the required consent.
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Conservative
The Vice-Chair Conservative Brian Fitzpatrick
I'd just as soon get back to a round of questions.
We have a point of order.
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Conservative
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Conservative
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Conservative
David Sweet Conservative Ancaster—Dundas—Flamborough—Westdale, ON
No, I'd just like to speak to the point.
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Conservative
The Vice-Chair Conservative Brian Fitzpatrick
You can table a motion. We're not going to deal with that in--
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Conservative
David Sweet Conservative Ancaster—Dundas—Flamborough—Westdale, ON
Oh, yes, if we can't get unanimous consent, then it's simply a notice.
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Conservative
The Vice-Chair Conservative Brian Fitzpatrick
We're not going to deal with it in June anyway, even if we had unanimous consent.
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NDP
David Christopherson NDP Hamilton Centre, ON
We can do a motion at the end of the meeting, and do the next steps, can't we?
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A voice
Yes, we can do that.
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NDP
David Christopherson NDP Hamilton Centre, ON
So the motion would be in order at the end of our rounds of discussions?
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A voice
Yes.
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Conservative
The Vice-Chair Conservative Brian Fitzpatrick
I'm open to having another round here. I have Mr. Laforest, Mr. Lake.... Mr. Christopherson, did you want to have another go with the witness?
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NDP
David Christopherson NDP Hamilton Centre, ON
No, I need my questions put when both of them are here. Thanks.
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Conservative
The Vice-Chair Conservative Brian Fitzpatrick
Maybe they can split their time.
Do any of the Liberal members want another...?
We'll start with Ms. Sgro, then.
I think three minutes is what we're looking at with each witness for each questioner.
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Liberal
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Liberal
Judy Sgro Liberal York West, ON
Okay.
A lot of the issues in and around this whole issue of whether you interfered or not with this leasing process were tied to your letter. You had indicated to me in an earlier question that was the extent of your involvement in this, that you responded to a concern from your employees.
Did you follow through and check the dollars and cents factor afterwards, as far as what it ended up costing? Are you aware of any of those numbers?
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As an Individual
I appreciate the question.
No. I in no way wanted to interfere with the process. I simply asked whether or not it was possible. In light of what they told me, which is that they could study that because they also had other needs, I never had anything further to do with it. My involvement was limited to that letter. Knowing that it was a possibility, I did not...
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Liberal
Judy Sgro Liberal York West, ON
Prior to coming in today to see us, you hadn't had a chance to see the auditor's report on this whole issue?
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As an Individual
No. All I received was the documents from the clerk concerning what Mr. Gladu said in his testimony before the committee.
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Liberal
Judy Sgro Liberal York West, ON
How do you account for the difference in the testimony Mr. Sweet referred to, which is in our document, and your recollection of the events and how they unfolded?
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Liberal
Judy Sgro Liberal York West, ON
How can you reconcile the difference between the comments Mr. Sweet gave you, as far as actual quotes from testimony of the deputy minister, and your knowledge of how things progressed? Can you explain the difference?