Evidence of meeting #21 for Public Accounts in the 39th Parliament, 2nd session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was agreements.
A recording is available from Parliament.
Conservative
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Shawn Murphy
Is there agreement in the committee to amend the motion to delete “Mr. Goodale”?
Conservative
Conservative
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Shawn Murphy
There's an amendment here. Just to get the record straight, the amendment is to delete the reference to Ralph Goodale and to insert Claude Drouin.
Is everyone in favour of that amendment?
(Amendment agreed to)
Just before you go, I want to get Mr. Fitzpatrick for 30 seconds, and then Mr. Poilievre.
Conservative
Brian Fitzpatrick Conservative Prince Albert, SK
I have just a quick comment.
In reviewing the transcripts, Mr. Gladu totally disagreed with Drouin's version that he was pushing for this. In fact, he says right in his sworn testimony before a committee that when he saw Drouin's letter, he personally talked to Drouin and told him that this was a mistake, that it was a matter of administration, and that he shouldn't be doing it.
If we want to get to the bottom of this, we should have the former deputy minister here at the same time as former minister Drouin is here. We should get this issue clarified, because there are major contradictions.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Shawn Murphy
I'm going to go back to Mr. Poilievre for the last comment. Then I'm going to ask the clerk to have a recorded vote.
Conservative
Pierre Poilievre Conservative Nepean—Carleton, ON
You supported the amendment. It's already passed. It's done.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Shawn Murphy
Everyone agreed to the amendment, Mr. Hubbard.
Mr. Poilievre, the last word is yours, for up to one minute. Then I'm going to ask the clerk to have a recorded vote.
Conservative
Pierre Poilievre Conservative Nepean—Carleton, ON
I personally believe that it would be in the interest of Mr. Goodale to be here and that he would want to come back to explain these discrepancies in his testimony. Otherwise, we're going to have to find our own explanations for them in our report, particularly his condemnation of the Auditor General.
I agree with some of the comments around the table that he might not answer the questions anyway. So he might not take the opportunity we give him. However, we have a good motion now that allows us to zero in on the crux of the matter, and I'd encourage everyone to support it.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Shawn Murphy
Thank you, Mr. Poilievre.
I'm going to ask the clerk to read the amended motion, and then I'm going to put the committee to a recorded vote.
The Clerk of the Committee Mr. Justin Vaive
The new motion as amended reads:
That the committee schedule a meeting with Claude Drouin and Don Boudria in relation to its study of chapter 7 of the Auditor General's May 2006 report.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Shawn Murphy
Shall the motion as amended carry?
(Motion as amended agreed to: yeas 8; nays 3)
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Shawn Murphy
We're now going to move to Mr. Wrzesnewskyj's motion, which has been circulated.
Mr. Wrznesnewskyj, you have two minutes. I'll entertain up to six interventions of one minute each.
Bloc
Jean-Yves Laforest Bloc Saint-Maurice—Champlain, QC
I would like to debate this motion at the next meeting.
Liberal
Conservative
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Shawn Murphy
The committee is on until it chooses to rise. Someone can make a motion to table; otherwise, we'll deal with the motion and adjourn.
Conservative
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Shawn Murphy
Mr. Sweet has made a motion to table that motion, colleagues. It's not debatable.
(Motion agreed to)
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Shawn Murphy
This motion will come before the committee at a subsequent meeting.
It is one o'clock, and the meeting is adjourned.
