Evidence of meeting #22 for Public Accounts in the 39th Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was chairman.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

John Wiersema  Deputy Auditor General, Office of the Auditor General of Canada
Michelle d'Auray  Deputy Minister, Department of Fisheries and Oceans
George Da Pont  Commissioner, Canadian Coast Guard, Department of Fisheries and Oceans
Charles Gadula  Deputy Commissioner, Canadian Coast Guard, Department of Fisheries and Oceans
John O'Brien  Principal, Office of the Auditor General of Canada
Clerk of the Committee  Mr. Justin Vaive

1:15 p.m.

Liberal

Borys Wrzesnewskyj Liberal Etobicoke Centre, ON

Yes. I believe the amendment was that he be removed from this motion, with the consideration that he may be—

1:15 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Shawn Murphy

No, the amendment speaks for itself. He's removed from the motion. And that's not a point of order.

Mr. Williams.

1:15 p.m.

Conservative

John Williams Conservative Edmonton—St. Albert, AB

Mr. Chair, the first two paragraphs—the third being deleted by the first amendment—are the preamble to the actual motion itself. The motion is that we study the situations that seemed to be instances where the Treasury Board guidelines were violated—I'm not exactly sure of the terminology—but we're dealing here with government administration and Treasury Board guidelines. That's what the motion actually says, and I can't imagine why we'd bring Hugh MacPhie and Sara Beth Mintz here to tell us about Treasury Board guidelines.

Also, Mr. Chairman, as I said, the Minister of Finance has apologized as well.

Therefore, I would move, Mr. Chairman, that the reference to Mr. Flaherty, the Minister of Finance, Mr. Hugh MacPhie, and Sara Beth Mintz also be removed, and that we bring in Mr. Wayne Wouters, the Secretary of the Treasury Board, to explain what's going on here.

1:15 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Shawn Murphy

Mr. Williams has made an amendment that reference to the Honourable Jim Flaherty, Mr. Hugh MacPhie, and Sara Beth Mintz be removed from the motion.

Perhaps I'll allow you a minute, Mr. Wrzesnewskyj.

1:15 p.m.

Liberal

Borys Wrzesnewskyj Liberal Etobicoke Centre, ON

I don't consider that an amendment.

1:15 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Shawn Murphy

We've heard the amendment proposed by Mr. Williams; it's pretty straightforward. The amendment is that the reference to the Honourable Jim Flaherty, Hugh MacPhie, and Sara Beth Mintz be deleted from the motion.

(Amendment negatived)

Now we're going to go back to the motion, and I'm going to put that to a vote.

Mr. Hubbard has requested a recorded vote, so I will turn it over to the clerk.

(Amendment agreed to: yeas 6; nays 5 [See Minutes of Proceedings])

1:20 p.m.

Liberal

Borys Wrzesnewskyj Liberal Etobicoke Centre, ON

A while back we had officials from DND appear before the committee, and they had been obligated to provide information in a timely fashion with set timelines.

1:20 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Shawn Murphy

We'll deal with that at the next steering committee.

I'm now going to adjourn the meeting. I want to wish everyone a very happy Easter.

The meeting stands adjourned to the call of the chair.