That's fair, but we know in policing that things are dynamic. When you have a Mayerthorpe and you have a Moncton, you don't have operational guys responding to these by themselves. You have your plainclothes cars responding. You have your guys who aren't necessarily equipped to handle that.
I think it's important to appreciate that those members might be on traffic in a plainclothes car. They may need access to a carbine in the right circumstance.
That's what I want to try to get at, as far as the training and the issuance of carbines are concerned. The goal in the MacNeil report is to have the members of the RCMP who are put in those positions properly trained, properly equipped, and then there's the maintenance and recertification of that equipment.
The other thing I want to ask about is body armour.
Your operational members wear soft body armour as a matter of issue, and it's a requirement in your policy, from what I understand. Does your soft body armour have the plates? When you say that you're now going to go to hard body armour, are you doing plate inserts or—