Again, this is a program that's dealing with $400 million of federal investment into the program. There need to be ways of being able to determine whether the program is being successful. I think we've heard some indicators that were mentioned just now in the opening statement about some of the things that are coming out of the venture capital fund.
The problem with something like an investment in venture capital is that from a profitability point of view, you don't know whether it's going to be profitable until maybe 15 years from now.
What indicators can be used to identify whether the companies that are actually being invested in.... I think this is one thing that keeps interesting me in this whole conversation. We talk about how much money the government, the provinces, and private sector have committed, and how much money has gotten into the hands of fund-of-funds managers, and how much into the hands of funds managers and again, there was a number about the amount of money that has been committed to companies.
What's interesting is understanding how much money has actually gotten to the companies. What are they doing with it? What are the indicators that they have their ideas and their ideas seem to be leading to commercialization and leading to something that is going to be profitable? I think it's trying to get down a little bit more into that level of detail which is the information that people really need to be able to understand that, okay, yes, this program seems to be on the road not just to creating that ecosystem of venture capitalists, but also creating successful companies.