No.
Evidence of meeting #33 for Public Safety and National Security in the 39th Parliament, 1st session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was person.
A recording is available from Parliament.
Evidence of meeting #33 for Public Safety and National Security in the 39th Parliament, 1st session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was person.
A recording is available from Parliament.
Assistant Deputy Minister, Safety and Security, Department of Transport
No.
Conservative
Assistant Deputy Minister, Safety and Security, Department of Transport
No.
NDP
Joe Comartin NDP Windsor—Tecumseh, ON
I'm deeply offended, Mr. Chair. That was going to be my question.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Garry Breitkreuz
I can't believe the right and the left have the same mind on something.
NDP
Joe Comartin NDP Windsor—Tecumseh, ON
Mr. Grégoire, pursuing the chair's question, because I seriously was going to ask it--
NDP
Joe Comartin NDP Windsor—Tecumseh, ON
No, that's fine, Mr. Chair.
So you're not going to tell them why they're on the list. They're going to have absolutely no information as to why they're on the list. Is that correct?
Assistant Deputy Minister, Safety and Security, Department of Transport
That is correct. Actually, we--
NDP
Joe Comartin NDP Windsor—Tecumseh, ON
That's fine.
So they will have no opportunity to get themselves off the list by being able to establish that in fact the information--much as has happened with Mr. Arar, and let's go down the list.... You're just repeating the same thing we've done so many times in the past. Didn't we learn anything?
Assistant Deputy Minister, Safety and Security, Department of Transport
No, we have learned, and we are using the lessons from Arar, you can be sure of that. In the regulation--
NDP
Joe Comartin NDP Windsor—Tecumseh, ON
But did you learn anything from the Supreme Court of Canada decision on Friday?
Assistant Deputy Minister, Safety and Security, Department of Transport
In the regulation, we have specified the guidelines that would be used to determine--
Assistant Deputy Minister, Safety and Security, Department of Transport
No, the guidelines are published. Look, the guidelines are--
NDP
Joe Comartin NDP Windsor—Tecumseh, ON
The guidelines are, but the information that's behind it is coming either from CSIS, the RCMP, or from external forces outside the country. You're going to take information from outside the country.
Assistant Deputy Minister, Safety and Security, Department of Transport
The person who will be put on the list will be representing a very high risk to aviation security. We're talking about terrorists.
Assistant Deputy Minister, Safety and Security, Department of Transport
Based on information given to us by CSIS and the RCMP.
NDP
Joe Comartin NDP Windsor—Tecumseh, ON
I commend the Supreme Court of Canada decision to you.
I don't have any other questions, Mr. Chair.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Garry Breitkreuz
Thank you.
We then go over to the government side, Mr. Norlock, for seven minutes, please.