Evidence of meeting #1 for Public Safety and National Security in the 41st Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was chair.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Clerk of the Committee  Mr. Andrew Bartholomew Chaplin

5:45 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Kevin Sorenson

So you would have to have someone from the Liberal Party here?

5:45 p.m.

Conservative

Candice Bergen Conservative Portage—Lisgar, MB

Yes.

5:45 p.m.

NDP

Don Davies NDP Vancouver Kingsway, BC

Mr. Chairman, the difficulty with it is that you could have one party who could pull quorum on you, right?

5:45 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Kevin Sorenson

Yes.

5:45 p.m.

NDP

Don Davies NDP Vancouver Kingsway, BC

Why don't we just say “including one member of the opposition and one member of the government”?

5:45 p.m.

Conservative

Candice Bergen Conservative Portage—Lisgar, MB

Do we want three or four for quorum? This says three. Four would be nice.

5:45 p.m.

NDP

Don Davies NDP Vancouver Kingsway, BC

It's up to you.

5:45 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Kevin Sorenson

Mr. Scarpaleggia.

June 15th, 2011 / 5:45 p.m.

Liberal

Francis Scarpaleggia Liberal Lac-Saint-Louis, QC

Again, this is just to hear evidence. No voting takes place in these meetings.

Now, it does say that the chair be authorized--meaning you, chair, and not a vice-chair--so it would require your presence, would it not?

5:45 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Kevin Sorenson

Or whoever is in the chair.

5:45 p.m.

Liberal

Francis Scarpaleggia Liberal Lac-Saint-Louis, QC

Ah, okay.

5:45 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Kevin Sorenson

I think the problem here, Mr. Scarpaleggia, and all of you, is that as parties have other people in other committees.... I mean, I don't know; are any of you in just one committee? Most of our members are in two committees. I imagine you may be in more than one committee.

Sometimes, if you only have one member and he isn't here yet, we can hold up forever. I think that's what Ms. Hoeppner's....

5:45 p.m.

Conservative

Candice Bergen Conservative Portage—Lisgar, MB

We could still go with four. I think four is still a good number for quorum.

5:45 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Kevin Sorenson

Well, you moved it, so.... This is just something to start off with, so if you're making a motion here that four members must be present--

5:45 p.m.

Conservative

Candice Bergen Conservative Portage—Lisgar, MB

And we could say “including one member of the opposition”. We want to make sure there's a member of the opposition so that the four members aren't just the government. As long as there's one member of the opposition, that's quorum.

5:45 p.m.

NDP

Don Davies NDP Vancouver Kingsway, BC

And one member of the government, to meet Mr. Rathgeber's...?

5:45 p.m.

Conservative

Candice Bergen Conservative Portage—Lisgar, MB

Yes, and one member of government.

5:45 p.m.

NDP

Don Davies NDP Vancouver Kingsway, BC

Does the chair count towards the quorum?

5:45 p.m.

Conservative

Candice Bergen Conservative Portage—Lisgar, MB

Yes.

5:45 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Kevin Sorenson

I mean, that's three others, so if we go with four....

It would be pretty pathetic to bring in witnesses and have all these chairs set up, and only the chairperson is here and two other people; that's the three. So if we go with four, and representation from government and from opposition--

5:50 p.m.

Conservative

Candice Bergen Conservative Portage—Lisgar, MB

We should have four.

5:50 p.m.

NDP

Don Davies NDP Vancouver Kingsway, BC

So it's four including the chair.

5:50 p.m.

Conservative

Candice Bergen Conservative Portage—Lisgar, MB

Well, four would be quorum.

5:50 p.m.

NDP

Don Davies NDP Vancouver Kingsway, BC

That sounds good.

5:50 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Kevin Sorenson

All in favour of the motion, then, as Ms. Hoeppner has suggested it?

(Motion agreed to [See Minutes of Proceedings])