If I could have one minute, Chair, it's amazing, though, the number of organizations with which I have had interaction in my previous career, and now in this, where the feeling is that the requirement for government is that we're responsible to ensure the legislation is in place, and the responsibility of government is to ensure that the public—the vulnerable public, all public—is not at risk from those who might reoffend.
Sometimes, even though they get a pardon, certain offences are not, right...? You're going to have vulnerable sector checks. Even your pardons are going to be checked. The public expects a system to be in place that protects them from those who may receive a pardon and still be a risk.