Evidence of meeting #68 for Public Safety and National Security in the 42nd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was waters.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Bob Runciman  Senator
Sébastien Aubertin-Giguère  Director General, Traveller Programs Directorate, Canada Border Services Agency
Madona Radi  Director, Program and Policy Management Division, Canada Border Services Agency

4:15 p.m.

Liberal

René Arseneault Liberal Madawaska—Restigouche, NB

We're talking about grounding.

4:15 p.m.

Director General, Traveller Programs Directorate, Canada Border Services Agency

Sébastien Aubertin-Giguère

In this case, it's the same thing as for vehicles, like cars, that enter Canada.

4:15 p.m.

Liberal

René Arseneault Liberal Madawaska—Restigouche, NB

That's fine, I understand. Thank you.

4:15 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Rob Oliphant

Are you done?

It's always like this with lawyers.

Are there other questions before we conclude?

We thank our witnesses. You're very welcome to stay through our clause-by-clause consideration of the bill.

4:15 p.m.

Conservative

Dianne Lynn Watts Conservative South Surrey—White Rock, BC

Are we going to vote on it?

4:15 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Rob Oliphant

We are. We're a little early. We have 10 more minutes, but I think we can start our clause-by-clause consideration if all of you agree.

4:15 p.m.

Conservative

Dianne Lynn Watts Conservative South Surrey—White Rock, BC

No, I meant your legislation.

4:15 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Rob Oliphant

I'm not understanding. It's clause-by-clause consideration on this bill, Bill S-233. That's what we're doing.

4:15 p.m.

Conservative

Dianne Lynn Watts Conservative South Surrey—White Rock, BC

Okay.

4:15 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Rob Oliphant

We're going to do that. Luckily you're dealing with a committee that is very experienced at clause-by-clause. They're very effective at it. Also, as we begin our clause-by-clause, Justin is with me. He is our procedural clerk who does legislation. He's here to make sure that I don't make mistakes.

We'll go to the clause-by-clause consideration of Bill S-233.

Pursuant to Standing Order 75(1), we will postpone consideration of the short title, which is clause 1, and move to clause 2 of the bill.

(Clauses 2 and 3 agreed to)

(On clause 4)

On clause 4, are there questions or concerns?

4:20 p.m.

Conservative

Dianne Lynn Watts Conservative South Surrey—White Rock, BC

I'm wondering if they have enough resources in terms of implementing this.... Never mind. That's okay. I'm good.

4:20 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Rob Oliphant

You're good?

4:20 p.m.

Conservative

Dianne Lynn Watts Conservative South Surrey—White Rock, BC

Yes.

(Clause 4 agreed to)

(On clause 5)

4:20 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Rob Oliphant

Are there questions or concerns?

4:20 p.m.

Liberal

John Oliver Liberal Oakville, ON

Is the coordinating amendment part of clause 5 or is it separate?

4:20 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Rob Oliphant

It is part of clause 7, I believe.

(Clauses 5 and 6 agreed to)

(On clause 7)

4:20 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Rob Oliphant

Clause 7 is a coordinating amendment.

Mr. Oliver.

4:20 p.m.

Liberal

John Oliver Liberal Oakville, ON

Proposed paragraph 95(1.1)(a) has an extra “as”. I don't know if that's a committee detail or whether that's corrected later. It reads “as long as as”. I don't know if that's committee work or clerk's work.

4:20 p.m.

Liberal

Michel Picard Liberal Montarville, QC

Is that all you have?

4:20 p.m.

Voices

Oh, oh!

4:20 p.m.

Liberal

John Oliver Liberal Oakville, ON

That's all I have; otherwise, it's perfect.

4:20 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Rob Oliphant

That is in line 17 on page 4 in the English version. It is correct in French.

I will ask the officials if they would like to strike “as”. Is there any drafting reason why you want it? There's just an extra “as”.

4:20 p.m.

Director General, Traveller Programs Directorate, Canada Border Services Agency

Sébastien Aubertin-Giguère

It's just an accident.

4:20 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Rob Oliphant

You will make an amendment to delete—

4:20 p.m.

Liberal

John Oliver Liberal Oakville, ON

I will make an amendment to delete the second “as”.