Evidence of meeting #101 for Public Safety and National Security in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was information.
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4:25 p.m.
Conservative
Glen Motz Conservative Medicine Hat—Cardston—Warner, AB
Thank you, Chair.
With respect to proposed section 17, it says, “A designated operator must, within a period prescribed by the regulations,” and then it would say “not to exceed 72 hours”.
We've taken “energy” out of this specific section because the regulations require consultation with sector-specific operators anyway, so it would be “not to exceed 72 hours”.
4:25 p.m.
Liberal
4:25 p.m.
NDP
Peter Julian NDP New Westminster—Burnaby, BC
It's “A designated operator must, within a period not to exceed 72 hours”. Is that right?
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Liberal
4:25 p.m.
Liberal
Ron McKinnon Liberal Coquitlam—Port Coquitlam, BC
Yes, Mr. Chair.
I am just wondering if there are any industries that require a longer period or whether that's really acceptable as a maximum.
4:25 p.m.
Director General, National Cyber Security Directorate, Department of Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness
Thank you, Mr. Chair.
During our consultations, one of the points raised most frequently was about harmonization with the requirement of CISA in the U.S., which is the 72-hour requirement. I don't recall any other input that specifically suggested that anything longer would be needed.
4:25 p.m.
Liberal
Jennifer O'Connell Liberal Pickering—Uxbridge, ON
Chair, thank you.
Just to clarify, for us I think the issue is not the 72 hours per se, because we do want to ensure we can have consistency with the U.S. The issue with the previous amendment was really around when that clock started ticking, that being at the operator's discretion, so we're very happy to support this 72-hour amendment.
4:25 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Heath MacDonald
There is no further discussion, so we will vote on the subamendment.
(Subamendment agreed to [See Minutes of Proceedings])
Now we'll go back to the original amendment.
Mr. Brock, go ahead.
April 8th, 2024 / 4:25 p.m.
Conservative
Larry Brock Conservative Brantford—Brant, ON
Thank you.
I'd like to move a motion at this time, Mr. Chair. It has been distributed to the clerk in both official languages.
4:25 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Heath MacDonald
We need to finish amendment G-13, Mr. Brock, before you can move that motion.
4:25 p.m.
Liberal
Ron McKinnon Liberal Coquitlam—Port Coquitlam, BC
On a point of order, did the subamendment pass? I didn't hear that.
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal Heath MacDonald
Yes, it carried.
We will go back to the original amendment G-13.
Is there any further discussion on it?
(Amendment as amended agreed to [See Minutes of Proceedings])
Mr. Brock, go ahead, please.
4:25 p.m.
Conservative
Larry Brock Conservative Brantford—Brant, ON
Thank you, Chair.
The motion is in both official languages. I move as follows:
“Given that under the current NDP-Liberal government, car thefts across Canada have surged by 34%, and that the Insurance Bureau of Canada, IBC, has deemed the number of car thefts a “national crisis”, stating that insurers have had to pay out record numbers, and these costs are passed directly on to Canadians, costing every driver an extra $130 per year, and that as recently reported in the media, a Montrealer went through hell in March when his car was stolen twice in just three weeks, the committee report to the House that Canada is facing a national auto theft crisis and request that the Minister of Public Safety appear before the committee for no less than three hours in relation to the ongoing auto theft study.”
4:25 p.m.
Liberal
Jennifer O'Connell Liberal Pickering—Uxbridge, ON
Mr. Chair, I move that we adjourn debate on this motion.
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal Heath MacDonald
Go ahead, Mr. Clerk, and take the vote.
(Motion agreed to: yeas 6; nays 5)
We're on CPC-21.
4:30 p.m.
Conservative
4:30 p.m.
Conservative
Doug Shipley Conservative Barrie—Springwater—Oro-Medonte, ON
I would like to move CPC-21, please. This amendment would require a “designated operator” to notify the regulator of a cyber-incident within 24 hours instead of immediately.