Public Safety Committee on May 9th, 2024

[Chris Bittle, Liberal, St. Catharines, ON]

—but then never follows them himself, including talking over me when I have the floor.

If we can focus on—

[Garnett Genuis, Conservative, Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB]

That's not a point of order.

[Chris Bittle, Liberal, St. Catharines, ON]

He's doing it again, Mr. Chair. Again, it's his shtick.

Again, this is a bill he purportedly supports, and he gets up in the House of Commons to talk about how supportive he is—

[Garnett Genuis, Conservative, Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB]

I have a point of order.

[Chris Bittle, Liberal, St. Catharines, ON]

I have the floor, Mr. Genuis, as you like to point out. You can finish—

[Garnett Genuis, Conservative, Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB]

I have a point of order.

[Chris Bittle, Liberal, St. Catharines, ON]

I am on a point of order, and again, we're cross-debating, Mr. Chair—

[Garnett Genuis, Conservative, Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB]

So am I. I have a point of order.

[Chris Bittle, Liberal, St. Catharines, ON]

—which is a violation of the Standing Orders, which Mr. Genuis would quote at me if I were violating them.

[Garnett Genuis, Conservative, Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB]

Which one?

I have a point of order.

[Chris Bittle, Liberal, St. Catharines, ON]

Mr. Chair, again, perhaps you can ask Mr. Genuis to please stop.

However, at the end of day, maybe he could please focus on the actual amendment, which he is not focusing on. He's lecturing us, which isn't in his amendment, but if we can get back to that, it would be much appreciated.

[The Chair, Liberal, Heath MacDonald]

Thank you.

Do you have a point of order, Mr. Genuis?

[Garnett Genuis, Conservative, Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB]

Yes, Chair, and I have been trying to speak to the issue. I was interrupted by Mr. Noormohamed, who did not have a point of order and yet was able to go on at great length.

I was responding to the fact that his point of order was not a point of order. Then Mr. Bittle, who is talking now, was trying to say that my response to Mr. Noormohamed's point of order was not relevant, and yet the original point of order for Mr. Noormohamed was fine.

I'm very keen to just get back to what I was saying.

[The Chair, Liberal, Heath MacDonald]

Mr. Genuis—

[Garnett Genuis, Conservative, Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB]

Yes?

[The Chair, Liberal, Heath MacDonald]

What you're doing is exactly what you're accusing them of doing, and they're doing the same to you, so let's get back to the....

Thank you.

[Garnett Genuis, Conservative, Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB]

Fantastic. We might not be agreed on everything, but we're agreed on that.

[Ron McKinnon, Liberal, Coquitlam—Port Coquitlam, BC]

I also have a point of order.

[The Chair, Liberal, Heath MacDonald]

I'm sorry. I didn't see you, Mr. McKinnon. Go ahead.

[Ron McKinnon, Liberal, Coquitlam—Port Coquitlam, BC]

I'm appreciative that Mr. Genuis has moved that we proceed to a different order of business. I would love to vote on that. Mr. Genuis wants to talk about the amendment, not the motion he's just made, and I'd love to hear those arguments once we get to that point, but until that point, I think we could discuss a specific request to move to a different order of business and perhaps vote on that so that we can carry on with things in due course.

I also find it a little bit puzzling that Mr. Genuis is speaking of the importance of sticking to an agenda when he is going out of his way to breach the agenda for this meeting.

[Larry Brock, Conservative, Brantford—Brant, ON]

Chair—

[Garnett Genuis, Conservative, Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB]

May I continue, Chair?

[The Chair, Liberal, Heath MacDonald]

I'm sorry. I thought you wanted a point of order.

Go ahead.

[Garnett Genuis, Conservative, Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB]

Thank you.

Having a different opinion is not a point of order, and I'll leave it there.

To go back to what I was talking about, which is the Bernardo prison transfer and the fact that our amendment to the subcommittee agenda proposes that the committee, with urgency, deal with the draft report on the transfer of Paul Bernardo, because—

[Ron McKinnon, Liberal, Coquitlam—Port Coquitlam, BC]

I have a point of order.

Again, this is about the amendment they wish to make to the subcommittee report. It's not about the motion that is on the floor to move to that order of business. I would very much love to see us do that, or at least vote on that decision.