Public Safety Committee on Nov. 7th, 2024

[Raquel Dancho, Conservative, Kildonan—St. Paul, MB]

We keep going back to the contents of the 106(4). It's not a subamendment. We're currently debating adding the India study. This is not a subamendment to the amendment we have, so I really question its validity as a subamendment.

[Pam Damoff, Liberal, Oakville North—Burlington, ON]

May I respond, Mr. Chair?

[Mark Gerretsen, Liberal, Kingston and the Islands, ON]

I have a point of order.

[Iqwinder Gaheer, Liberal, Mississauga—Malton, ON]

Mr. Gerretsen, go ahead on your point of order.

[Mark Gerretsen, Liberal, Kingston and the Islands, ON]

I think Ms. Damoff is correct.

What Ms. Dancho should be doing is moving this amendment after the existing amendment is voted on. This is not attempting to amend the amendment currently being debated. As a matter of fact, that stays in its existing form.

[Iqwinder Gaheer, Liberal, Mississauga—Malton, ON]

Thank you to Ms. Damoff and Mr. Gerretsen.

I tend to agree, and so does the clerk, that the subamendment has to deal with the contours of the motion and the amendment itself. When it goes outside of those bounds, it's out of order.

[Pam Damoff, Liberal, Oakville North—Burlington, ON]

May I respond?

[Iqwinder Gaheer, Liberal, Mississauga—Malton, ON]

Sure.

[Pam Damoff, Liberal, Oakville North—Burlington, ON]

I didn't mean to cut you off. I just wanted to respond.

I would say, again, the purpose, in my understanding of the NDP amendment, is again—

[Raquel Dancho, Conservative, Kildonan—St. Paul, MB]

I'm sorry. I have a point of order, Chair.

[Jennifer O'Connell, Liberal, Pickering—Uxbridge, ON]

I have a point of order, Mr. Chair.

You've ruled. There's no debate on your ruling, unless she'd like to challenge you.

[Pam Damoff, Liberal, Oakville North—Burlington, ON]

I believe I have the floor. I didn't give up the floor, Mr. Chair.

[Jennifer O'Connell, Liberal, Pickering—Uxbridge, ON]

I have a point of order.

The chair has made a ruling that the subamendment is out of order.

There's no debating that.

[Pam Damoff, Liberal, Oakville North—Burlington, ON]

Mr. Chair, I believe I have the floor.

[Iqwinder Gaheer, Liberal, Mississauga—Malton, ON]

Ms. Dancho still has the floor.

[Pam Damoff, Liberal, Oakville North—Burlington, ON]

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Again, I appreciate that you've ruled. Are you officially ruling this out of order?

[Iqwinder Gaheer, Liberal, Mississauga—Malton, ON]

It's out of order, but you still have the floor.

[Pam Damoff, Liberal, Oakville North—Burlington, ON]

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Again, the purpose of moving the subamendment to Mr. MacGregor's amendment—

[Jennifer O'Connell, Liberal, Pickering—Uxbridge, ON]

I have a point of order.

[Raquel Dancho, Conservative, Kildonan—St. Paul, MB]

I have a point of order.

[Iqwinder Gaheer, Liberal, Mississauga—Malton, ON]

Ms. O'Connell, go ahead on a point of order, first.

[Jennifer O'Connell, Liberal, Pickering—Uxbridge, ON]

I recognize what Ms. Dancho is trying to do, but she can't speak to a subamendment that's been ruled out of order.

She could get back to the amendment, which is the topic we're on, and she would still have the floor.

[Pam Damoff, Liberal, Oakville North—Burlington, ON]

If I could get a sentence out, I believe I could make my point, Mr. Chair.

[Jennifer O'Connell, Liberal, Pickering—Uxbridge, ON]

Excuse me, but it is my turn.

[Pam Damoff, Liberal, Oakville North—Burlington, ON]

Go ahead.