Evidence of meeting #129 for Public Safety and National Security in the 44th Parliament, 1st session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was conservative.

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On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

David Pugliese  Journalist, Ottawa Citizen, As an Individual
Brent Jolly  President, Canadian Association of Journalists
Hilary Smyth  Committee Clerk
Clerk of the Committee  Mr. Simon Larouche

12:25 p.m.

Conservative

Raquel Dancho Conservative Kildonan—St. Paul, MB

We keep going back to the contents of the 106(4). It's not a subamendment. We're currently debating adding the India study. This is not a subamendment to the amendment we have, so I really question its validity as a subamendment.

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Pam Damoff Liberal Oakville North—Burlington, ON

May I respond, Mr. Chair?

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Mark Gerretsen Liberal Kingston and the Islands, ON

I have a point of order.

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Iqwinder Gaheer Liberal Mississauga—Malton, ON

Mr. Gerretsen, go ahead on your point of order.

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Mark Gerretsen Liberal Kingston and the Islands, ON

I think Ms. Damoff is correct.

What Ms. Dancho should be doing is moving this amendment after the existing amendment is voted on. This is not attempting to amend the amendment currently being debated. As a matter of fact, that stays in its existing form.

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Iqwinder Gaheer Liberal Mississauga—Malton, ON

Thank you to Ms. Damoff and Mr. Gerretsen.

I tend to agree, and so does the clerk, that the subamendment has to deal with the contours of the motion and the amendment itself. When it goes outside of those bounds, it's out of order.

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Pam Damoff Liberal Oakville North—Burlington, ON

May I respond?

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Iqwinder Gaheer Liberal Mississauga—Malton, ON

Sure.

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Pam Damoff Liberal Oakville North—Burlington, ON

I didn't mean to cut you off. I just wanted to respond.

I would say, again, the purpose, in my understanding of the NDP amendment, is again—

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12:25 p.m.

Conservative

Raquel Dancho Conservative Kildonan—St. Paul, MB

I'm sorry. I have a point of order, Chair.

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Jennifer O'Connell Liberal Pickering—Uxbridge, ON

I have a point of order, Mr. Chair.

You've ruled. There's no debate on your ruling, unless she'd like to challenge you.

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Pam Damoff Liberal Oakville North—Burlington, ON

I believe I have the floor. I didn't give up the floor, Mr. Chair.

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Jennifer O'Connell Liberal Pickering—Uxbridge, ON

I have a point of order.

The chair has made a ruling that the subamendment is out of order.

There's no debating that.

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Pam Damoff Liberal Oakville North—Burlington, ON

Mr. Chair, I believe I have the floor.

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Iqwinder Gaheer Liberal Mississauga—Malton, ON

Ms. Dancho still has the floor.

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Pam Damoff Liberal Oakville North—Burlington, ON

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Again, I appreciate that you've ruled. Are you officially ruling this out of order?

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Iqwinder Gaheer Liberal Mississauga—Malton, ON

It's out of order, but you still have the floor.

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Pam Damoff Liberal Oakville North—Burlington, ON

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Again, the purpose of moving the subamendment to Mr. MacGregor's amendment—

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Jennifer O'Connell Liberal Pickering—Uxbridge, ON

I have a point of order.

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12:25 p.m.

Conservative

Raquel Dancho Conservative Kildonan—St. Paul, MB

I have a point of order.

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Iqwinder Gaheer Liberal Mississauga—Malton, ON

Ms. O'Connell, go ahead on a point of order, first.

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Jennifer O'Connell Liberal Pickering—Uxbridge, ON

I recognize what Ms. Dancho is trying to do, but she can't speak to a subamendment that's been ruled out of order.

She could get back to the amendment, which is the topic we're on, and she would still have the floor.

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Pam Damoff Liberal Oakville North—Burlington, ON

If I could get a sentence out, I believe I could make my point, Mr. Chair.

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Jennifer O'Connell Liberal Pickering—Uxbridge, ON

Excuse me, but it is my turn.

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Pam Damoff Liberal Oakville North—Burlington, ON

Go ahead.

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