Evidence of meeting #2 for Public Safety and National Security in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was amendment.

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Clerk of the Committee  Mr. Wassim Bouanani

11:10 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Jim Carr

Okay. Are there other comments about the first amendment?

11:10 a.m.

The Clerk

Ms. Dancho would like to speak, sir.

11:10 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Jim Carr

Go ahead, Ms. Dancho.

December 14th, 2021 / 11:10 a.m.

Conservative

Raquel Dancho Conservative Kildonan—St. Paul, MB

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

I'm wondering, Ms. Damoff, if we have the track changes. I'm not sure. I'm not clear if—

11:10 a.m.

Liberal

Pam Damoff Liberal Oakville North—Burlington, ON

I have them in English but not in French.

11:10 a.m.

Conservative

Raquel Dancho Conservative Kildonan—St. Paul, MB

Okay. I don't think we have either. I'm not seeing where the changes are made in here, unless I'm not looking at the right document.

11:10 a.m.

Liberal

Pam Damoff Liberal Oakville North—Burlington, ON

Can I distribute the English?

11:10 a.m.

Conservative

Raquel Dancho Conservative Kildonan—St. Paul, MB

Do you have an extra document?

11:15 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Jim Carr

Has the staff distributed these track changes to members?

11:15 a.m.

The Clerk

The document that was provided by Ms. Damoff was distributed. It did not contain the track changes, as far as I understand.

11:15 a.m.

Liberal

Ron McKinnon Liberal Coquitlam—Port Coquitlam, BC

I have a point of order, Mr. Chair.

11:15 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Jim Carr

On a point of order, go ahead, Mr. McKinnon.

11:15 a.m.

Liberal

Ron McKinnon Liberal Coquitlam—Port Coquitlam, BC

If Ms. Damoff were to read the amendment, it might be helpful.

11:15 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Jim Carr

That's fine, but as a matter of good practice moving forward, when there are amendments in front of the committee, track changes should be printed and put in front of members of the committee. Can we note that? Since that's not the case now, the next best thing would be for Ms. Damoff to read the substance of the amendment.

11:15 a.m.

Liberal

Pam Damoff Liberal Oakville North—Burlington, ON

Mr. Chair, I think I have it in both official languages, but it does not show up on my phone. How do I send it to the clerk? If you could give that to my staff, they could forward it to you. They're right here.

In the meantime, the first change I want is to delete clause (a) of the motion. We would be deleting the line that says:

(a) hold, by December 17, 2021, at least one (1) additional meeting to hear from Royal Canadian Mounted Police officials for a duration of three (3) hours;

That clause would be deleted, and that's what we're voting on now. The reason for doing it is that I propose adding the RCMP to clause (b).

11:15 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Jim Carr

Is that clear to all members of the committee? Are there any other comments before I ask for a vote on that first amendment?

11:15 a.m.

The Clerk

Sir, Ms. Dancho has raised her hand.

11:15 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Jim Carr

Go ahead, Ms. Dancho.

11:15 a.m.

Conservative

Raquel Dancho Conservative Kildonan—St. Paul, MB

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

I would just like to hear from our Bloc committee member's thoughts on this amendment. Is she supportive? Is this something that she feels will achieve the outcome she is desiring with her motion? I would appreciate her feedback.

11:15 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Jim Carr

Go ahead, Madame Michaud.

11:15 a.m.

Bloc

Kristina Michaud Bloc Avignon—La Mitis—Matane—Matapédia, QC

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Thank you, Ms. Dancho, for the opportunity.

I quite liked Ms. Damoff's point that it will be possible to delineate what is under the control of the RCMP and what is under the control of the Canada Border Services Agency. I think it's a good idea to have them in together. We just need to clarify that we are sure we have three hours for both organizations. I agree with that.

11:15 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Jim Carr

Fair enough. Good.

Are there any other comments on the first proposed amendment?

Go ahead, Ms. Dancho.

11:15 a.m.

Conservative

Raquel Dancho Conservative Kildonan—St. Paul, MB

I'm just wondering how this would impact.... I know that we were talking about a Friday meeting with the RCMP. Is that in the works? If this is passed, will we not be able to see the RCMP on Friday?

11:15 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Jim Carr

You mean Thursday.

11:15 a.m.

Conservative

Raquel Dancho Conservative Kildonan—St. Paul, MB

I think Thursday we were supposed to meet with the minister, and I think we were in discussions for a potential meeting on Friday. We were hoping to hear about that today.