Evidence of meeting #2 for Public Safety and National Security in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was amendment.

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MPs speaking

Also speaking

Clerk of the Committee  Mr. Wassim Bouanani

12:55 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Jim Carr

Are there further comments?

12:55 p.m.

Liberal

Sameer Zuberi Liberal Pierrefonds—Dollard, QC

Yes, Mr. Chair.

I really think this is a good discussion and an important one to have. I myself have been hearing a lot about Huawei and have some concern around it also.

At the same time, I believe we've seen our security agencies protect Canadians. I have full confidence that they will do so, especially on this very important matter of domestic security. I also recognize how this is somewhat of a complex issue. It involves both domestic security and some level of international relations. We have seen clear signals from the government that a decision is imminent and forthcoming. We all know that this question has been out there for a while, but the language around the timing of this decision is whittling down.

For that reason, I trust that a decision is around the corner. For this reason, I won't be supporting this motion brought forward by our colleague.

I just wanted to go on the record on that point.

Thank you.

12:55 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Jim Carr

Colleagues, we are within a minute or so of our prescribed end time. Is there another comment from a member of the committee?

Do we have majority consent to adjourn the meeting?

12:55 p.m.

Liberal

Ron McKinnon Liberal Coquitlam—Port Coquitlam, BC

Mr. Chair, there are hands up for discussion.

12:55 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Jim Carr

I don't see hands up.

Mr. McKinnon, is that you?

12:55 p.m.

Liberal

Ron McKinnon Liberal Coquitlam—Port Coquitlam, BC

It's Mr. Chiang.

12:55 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Jim Carr

Mr. Chiang, you have the floor.

12:55 p.m.

Liberal

Paul Chiang Liberal Markham—Unionville, ON

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

As a former police officer, I'd like the committee to be focusing on gangs, crime and the gun violence in our country. It is very important for us to focus on that, because of gang violence. We need to work on that instead of looking at Huawei. Our government is doing a study on that, and they will be working on that component. I would vote against it.

12:55 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Jim Carr

Thank you.

Is there other commentary? I see the time is one o'clock, except in Bomber land, where it's noon.

Do we have a sense that the meeting should adjourn?

12:55 p.m.

Conservative

Raquel Dancho Conservative Kildonan—St. Paul, MB

No. I have a comment.

12:55 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Jim Carr

Can we adjourn the meeting, Clerk?

1 p.m.

Conservative

Raquel Dancho Conservative Kildonan—St. Paul, MB

I have a point of order, Mr. Chair.

1 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Jim Carr

Yes, go ahead, Ms. Dancho.

1 p.m.

Conservative

Raquel Dancho Conservative Kildonan—St. Paul, MB

Mr. Chair, we don't give our consent to adjourn.

I know the Liberal members have already put on the record that they're not supporting the motion, so I suggest that we vote on the motion. Many of them have already expressed that they won't be supporting it, so let's vote. That's my recommendation, Mr. Chair, and then we're free to adjourn, from our perspective.

1 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Jim Carr

Clerk, where do we proceed from here? Do we move a motion to adjourn?

1 p.m.

The Clerk

As long as there are speakers, sir, we need to keep going. Mr. McKinnon and Ms. Damoff have raised their hands.

1 p.m.

Liberal

Ron McKinnon Liberal Coquitlam—Port Coquitlam, BC

Mr. Clerk, I move that we do now adjourn.

1 p.m.

The Clerk

Can I proceed with the vote, sir?

1 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Jim Carr

You may.

1 p.m.

The Clerk

The question is on the motion moved by Mr. McKinnon. I will take the vote.

1 p.m.

Liberal

Sameer Zuberi Liberal Pierrefonds—Dollard, QC

Mr. Chair, I misunderstood what we were voting on. If I can correct my vote, I'm voting to adjourn.

1 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Jim Carr

Yes, I think that was clear.

1 p.m.

Liberal

Sameer Zuberi Liberal Pierrefonds—Dollard, QC

Thank you.

1 p.m.

Conservative

Raquel Dancho Conservative Kildonan—St. Paul, MB

Mr. Chair, I have a point of clarification, if I may.

1 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Jim Carr

Go ahead.