Evidence of meeting #30 for Public Safety and National Security in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was subamendment.
A recording is available from Parliament.
Liberal
Ron McKinnon Liberal Coquitlam—Port Coquitlam, BC
Thank you, Chair.
I'd certainly like to support Mr. MacGregor's subamendment. I'd actually like us to be able to vote on that particular subamendment, because I'd like to move a further subamendment, which I believe I can't do as long as that's on the floor. I'm going to propose an amendment so that instead of three one-hour meetings, we have one meeting, without being too specific about the panels.
Anyway, I can't move that until we deal with this subamendment.
Conservative
Tako Van Popta Conservative Langley—Aldergrove, BC
Thank you.
I'm generally in favour of Mr. MacGregor's amendment. I think it's important that we have Mr. Brennan at the meeting. He was part of the call, and we want to hear from him.
I would also underline the fact that our investigation is going to be quite different from the Mass Casualty Commission investigation going on in Nova Scotia right now, which is really looking at operational matters—what happened on the ground, what didn't happen on the ground and timing issues. Our investigation is going to be more into allegations of political interference, which I think definitely falls within the realm of what this public safety committee needs to be doing.
I think it's an urgent matter. I think we need to move along just as quickly as we can. I understand that House of Commons resources will be limited over the next couple of weeks, but it is also my understanding that, for an emergency meeting, they can be made available. I think we need to use whatever tools are available to us, provided by the House of Commons, to conduct these meetings as soon as we can.
Thank you.
Liberal
Pam Damoff Liberal Oakville North—Burlington, ON
Just for clarification, Mr. MacGregor's subamendment is to add the deputy commissioner to the motion. That's what we're voting on. Is that it?
Okay. Let's vote on that.
Conservative
Liberal
Pam Damoff Liberal Oakville North—Burlington, ON
I think we should deal with those separately, if we could.
Conservative
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Jim Carr
I didn't hear any reference to timing when Mr. MacGregor read his subamendment.
NDP
Alistair MacGregor NDP Cowichan—Malahat—Langford, BC
Yes, Mr. Chair, and I'll confirm that. It's just to add the deputy commissioner at this point, because I think we're going to have a discussion on the timing after we pass the subamendment.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Jim Carr
Okay.
Colleagues, I'm looking at my clock. We vote in 11 minutes.
Clerk, how much time do we have to leave for members to vote in a timely way? How far do we run this clock down?
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Jim Carr
Why don't we stop the discussion now, vote, come back and then sort out the voting on the subamendment and the amendment?
Is that all right with everybody?
Liberal
Ron McKinnon Liberal Coquitlam—Port Coquitlam, BC
Mr. Chair, can we have clarification? Can we have the vote on the subamendment now and then suspend?
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Jim Carr
Let's take a vote on Mr. MacGregor's subamendment.
Mr. MacGregor, do you want to quickly read it, please?
NDP
Alistair MacGregor NDP Cowichan—Malahat—Langford, BC
My subamendment is that the amendment be amended by adding Deputy Commissioner Brian Brennan of the RCMP to the panel with Commissioner Brenda Lucki.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Jim Carr
That's clear.
(Subamendment agreed to: yeas 11, nays 0 [See Minutes of Proceedings])
Very good. Thank you, colleagues. The subamendment passes.
Now we're within the period where we should bear down on the vote.
Liberal
Ron McKinnon Liberal Coquitlam—Port Coquitlam, BC
Mr. Chair, I would like to move a subamendment as soon as we get back.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Jim Carr
One thing at a time, Mr. McKinnon. Let's get the votes out of the way. There are a number of minutes left. I believe we have to wait 10 minutes after the vote has been announced in the House before we resume our deliberations. I will look to the clerk for a cue when those 10 minutes have passed, and then we will resume discussion of this item.
We'll see you in a few minutes.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Jim Carr
Colleagues, I call the meeting back to order.
Just before we took the break to vote, we approved a subamendment by Mr. MacGregor. Just as we left the meeting, Mr. McKinnon wanted the floor.
Mr. McKinnon, go ahead.
