The government, at this time, is trying its best to diversify our trade to other countries in the world. I support that, but I don't think this should come at the expense of human rights, and I don't think it needs to. We can make choices that reflect our values as Canadians.
The Prime Minister and ministers have gone abroad and said that we have a values-based, pragmatic foreign policy. What countries like China hear when we say “values-based, pragmatic foreign policy” is the word “pragmatic”, and they think we'll just roll over whenever they tell us that they want us to do something. It seems that we may, from time to time, be doing that.
Personally, as somebody who's focused her career on public policy, I think that's terrible and not necessary. I think we can have our values—