I want to be clear that we have great retention while they're in programs. It's once they get on the job that retention becomes an issue. We're fortunate enough to have had nobody drop out of programs in this last fiscal year, which is the first time. We do have the odd ones drop out, but this was the first time everybody stayed in.
I'm going to say the number one reason is isolation on the job, even if it's not a remote job site. It's just being perhaps the only woman on that job site. Again, the lack of role model or mentor on the job site has become an issue. The women who feel isolated feel they're not getting the training they need, because with an apprenticeship, you need the combination of the technical training and the work-based training, and if you're not getting to work-based training and you're just showing up and doing the same thing every day in isolation, that's not really going to help you to get your apprenticeship