Evidence of meeting #55 for Transport, Infrastructure and Communities in the 39th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was sms.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Franz Reinhardt  Director, Regulatory Services, Civil Aviation, Department of Transport
Susan Stanfield  Legal Counsel, Department of Transport
Merlin Preuss  Director General, Civil Aviation, Department of Transport

3:50 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Merv Tweed

Is everybody comfortable? Okay.

To clarify, there has been a subamendment to the government's amendment. It will change paragraph (a) to a low level of risk, and the second part, in paragraph (b), will remove the word “scheduled”.

(Subamendment agreed to [See Minutes of Proceedings])

3:50 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Merv Tweed

Mr. Julian.

3:50 p.m.

NDP

Peter Julian NDP Burnaby—New Westminster, BC

There is a series of subamendments. You're talking about subamendment (a).

3:50 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Merv Tweed

I actually brought them both together as two subamendments in one phrase. They're going to change it to “a low level of risk” and then we're going to remove “scheduled”. That's the subamendment to the government amendment G-2.

(Amendment agreed to [See Minutes of Proceedings])

3:50 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Merv Tweed

We will go to amendment BQ-14, which is page 37 in your playbook.

3:55 p.m.

Liberal

Joe Volpe Liberal Eglinton—Lawrence, ON

Did we do something with the others already?

3:55 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Merv Tweed

Yes, they're covered by the amendments we've made here.

Amendment G-2 basically eliminates amendment BQ-12, LIB-5, NDP-6, BQ-13, NDP-7, and NDP-7.1.

3:55 p.m.

Liberal

Joe Volpe Liberal Eglinton—Lawrence, ON

Okay.

3:55 p.m.

Liberal

Mauril Bélanger Liberal Ottawa—Vanier, ON

Give those slowly, so we can scratch them off here.

3:55 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Merv Tweed

Yes, for sure. So BQ-12 is dealt with in the amendments to G-2. So are BQ-13, LIB-5, NDP-6, NDP-7, and NDP-7.1.

That moves us to BQ-14 on page 37, and just for the interest of the committee, amendments BQ-14 and NDP-8 are identical.

Mr. Julian.

3:55 p.m.

NDP

Peter Julian NDP Burnaby—New Westminster, BC

Mr. Chair, I would agree with you on all of the amendments with the exception of NDP-7.1. Amendment NDP-7.1 adds some additional clarity around the conditions under which a designated organization can be so designated.

3:55 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Merv Tweed

I'm advised that NDP-7.1 is in a line conflict, that with the amendment and subamendment to G-2, that line is no longer there.

3:55 p.m.

Liberal

Mauril Bélanger Liberal Ottawa—Vanier, ON

It's no longer there, Mr. Chairman, because some lines have been shifted around--

3:55 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Merv Tweed

Right.

3:55 p.m.

Liberal

Mauril Bélanger Liberal Ottawa—Vanier, ON

--so the task is to find where it would apply and see whether you're right or Mr. Julian's right in terms of its non-pertinence anymore.

3:55 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Merv Tweed

Mr. Jean.

3:55 p.m.

Conservative

Brian Jean Conservative Fort McMurray—Athabasca, AB

I'm wondering whether or not Mr. Julian wants to deal with it now or maybe on Wednesday. But I would certainly be interested in looking at the amendment coming into a place where it would belong without being in conflict--depending on what it is, of course, subject to looking at it.

But I'm more curious as to what he's trying to accomplish with that amendment given the new amendment. Through you, Mr. Chair, would Mr. Julian like to look at it and present it for next Wednesday as maybe an amendment under a different clause or to the amendment we just passed, just because it's--

3:55 p.m.

NDP

Peter Julian NDP Burnaby—New Westminster, BC

Certainly.

3:55 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Merv Tweed

The amendment suggests that it's replacing line 30--

3:55 p.m.

Conservative

Brian Jean Conservative Fort McMurray—Athabasca, AB

Yes.

3:55 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Merv Tweed

--and that no longer exists. That's the only reason it's in conflict. There's no line for it to change anymore.

3:55 p.m.

NDP

Peter Julian NDP Burnaby—New Westminster, BC

I understand, Mr. Chair, but Mr. Bélanger pointed out that although we have adopted some shifting in wording, the substance of the amendment is still valid.

But I'll follow Mr. Jean's advice: either we can formally stand it aside or, if you prefer, Mr. Chair, we can simply come back to it on Wednesday.

3:55 p.m.

Conservative

Brian Jean Conservative Fort McMurray—Athabasca, AB

From the government's perspective, Mr. Chair, and in the spirit of cooperation, we want the best bill to come forward, and certainly on a technical argument, we don't think we should have something ignored on that basis. I would invite the member to bring it back Wednesday if it's not satisfied by the current amendment.

3:55 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Merv Tweed

We'll stand NDP-7.1 until Wednesday for clarification as to where it would apply in the act.

3:55 p.m.

Liberal

Mauril Bélanger Liberal Ottawa—Vanier, ON

Will it be Wednesday or earlier, in case we get finished today?