But I certainly hope the railways heard what you said, because they may not actually agree that we're always on their side. We're inclinced to have a balanced view.
The minister basically explained the decision the government has made on the hopper cars. It has been on our desk since 1995. The government has made a decision. The cars bring the government $10 million a year. This certainly is a consideration in the decision. The view has been that the cars should stay with government, so that's the decision.
John Dobson will comment on the report of the CTA and perhaps have some comments on the car replacement issue.