Evidence of meeting #29 for Transport, Infrastructure and Communities in the 40th Parliament, 3rd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was amendment.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Wayne Cole  Procedural Clerk
Simon Dubé  Director, Portfolio Management, Crown Corporation Governance, Department of Transport
Clerk of the Committee  Ms. Bonnie Charron

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Liberal

The Vice-Chair Liberal John McCallum

Every 10 years.

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Liberal

Bonnie Crombie Liberal Mississauga—Streetsville, ON

Yes, every 10 years.

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Liberal

The Vice-Chair Liberal John McCallum

Okay.

Let's have you read it first.

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Procedural Clerk

Wayne Cole

Okay. It would read, “The government shall review the definition of library materials in proposed subparagraph 19(1)(g.1) every 10 years.”

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Liberal

The Vice-Chair Liberal John McCallum

Yes, Brian.

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Conservative

Brian Jean Conservative Fort McMurray—Athabasca, AB

Instead of the government reviewing it, I'm just wondering if it might be advantageous for the committee that's responsible for crown corporations to review it. In this case, Canada Post is the appropriate committee. I'm wondering if that's Ms. Crombie's intention. The government can review things pretty quickly without anybody knowing about it. We might have an NDP government for that matter at that stage.

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Liberal

Marcel Proulx Liberal Hull—Aylmer, QC

What a jokester.

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Conservative

Brian Jean Conservative Fort McMurray—Athabasca, AB

Would it be better to have the appropriate committee have it so that we would receive notice here, and if the committee wanted to study it, the committee could and then make a recommendation to the House or the government?

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Liberal

The Vice-Chair Liberal John McCallum

Mr. Guimond.

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Bloc

Michel Guimond Bloc Montmorency—Charlevoix—Haute-Côte-Nord, QC

The problem can be easily solved. Instead of talking about the government, just change it to “Parliament”. When you talk about “Parliament”, it refers to a committee reporting to the House and the House, which meets in Parliament, adopting that report.

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Liberal

The Vice-Chair Liberal John McCallum

Okay.

D'accord.

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Procedural Clerk

Wayne Cole

The difficulty with saying “Parliament” is it's not clear whether it's the House and the Senate or the House or the Senate.

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Liberal

The Vice-Chair Liberal John McCallum

What can you say, then?

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Conservative

Brian Jean Conservative Fort McMurray—Athabasca, AB

They can recommend to do nothing further and not to report it to the Senate, or to change the legislation and then it would go to the Senate in due course. We don't need both places to--

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Liberal

The Vice-Chair Liberal John McCallum

So you accept that, “Parliament”?

I think we may have arrived at a consensus: “Parliament shall review”.... You go ahead.

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Procedural Clerk

Wayne Cole

It would be “Parliament shall review the definition of library materials in proposed paragraph 19(1)(g.1) every 10 years.”

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Liberal

The Vice-Chair Liberal John McCallum

All right. Is there agreement? I can now ask for a vote on this?

Shall new clause 4--

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Liberal

Marcel Proulx Liberal Hull—Aylmer, QC

On a point of clarification, wouldn't this mean that it couldn't be done before the 10-year period or before it has been 10 years? Let's say that at the end of five years--

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Liberal

Bonnie Crombie Liberal Mississauga—Streetsville, ON

Things change.

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Liberal

Marcel Proulx Liberal Hull—Aylmer, QC

--things have changed. Could they still do it after five years, or would they have to wait until the 10th year?

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Liberal

Bonnie Crombie Liberal Mississauga—Streetsville, ON

At least every 10 years?

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Bloc

Michel Guimond Bloc Montmorency—Charlevoix—Haute-Côte-Nord, QC

Your amendment, Mr. Proulx, referred to at least ten years.

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Liberal

Marcel Proulx Liberal Hull—Aylmer, QC

I am asking the question.

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Bloc

Michel Guimond Bloc Montmorency—Charlevoix—Haute-Côte-Nord, QC

Very well.

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Liberal

Bonnie Crombie Liberal Mississauga—Streetsville, ON

What if we said “at least every 10 years”?