Yes. I'll ask this question to DND when they come. I'm going to ask why it's not mandatory. When we check out of the military we actually have a release spreadsheet. You must go see pay and benefits, you must go see your release adviser, you must do this, you must do that, and everything must be checked off before actually you're considered to be released. I'll ask them why it is that SCAN seminars, while perhaps they might be highly recommended, are not actually a check box on a release format so that you actually have to attend at least part of it to know if you want to go to the rest of it. You probably can't answer that so I'll ask them that.
One of the things I'm going to find interesting about this study is you've got a member in DND who is receiving programs and services from DND because he is a serving soldier or she is a serving soldier and then there is SISIP. They transition through SISIP. The SCAN seminar I think is information based. So it's here's what's happening to you, here are the resources that are available to you. As you're leaving DND, SISIP might be providing some services. VAC provides services as well. I'm going to be interested in understanding what is it, for example, that SISIP might do that you might also do and are they cancelling?
For example, take vocational training. When I went through my SCAN seminar and interfaced with SISIP I was told I believe about vocational training and what was available to me in terms of vocational training. But I believe you have vocational training at least in your slide package.
So, for example, is that the same vocational training? In other words, there is a $70,000 limit in vocation training—you can confirm that number for me—and SISIP would offer something else. Are these two different types of vocational training? Or are they considered one program with two entry points? Can you tell us a bit about that?