Madam Speaker, while the hon. member on the other side suggested that this was not a form of physical abuse, I would suggest that there are many forms of abuse such as psychological abuse. It does sound very severe.
The member also suggested that these individuals were changed for life. I would suggest that people who are subjected to severe forms of psychological abuse would be changed for life. We all know what happens when we beat a dog regularly and the kinds of things that can happen with that.
There is very strong evidence that is well substantiated that many of these young children who get in trouble with the law had trauma at birth, are suffering from severe learning disabilities, and I am not entirely sure what this kind of treatment would do to help these children who are not loved and not healthy.