Debates of June 20th, 1994

Young Offenders Act

[The Deputy Speaker]

All those opposed will please say nay.

[Some hon. members]

Nay.

[The Deputy Speaker]

In my opinion the nays have it.

And more than five members having risen:

[The Deputy Speaker]

Call in the members.

And the bells having rung:

[The Deputy Speaker]

Pursuant to Standing Order 45(5)(a), I have been requested by the chief opposition whip to defer the division until a later time.

Accordingly, pursuant to Standing Order 45(5)( a ), a recorded division on the question before the House stands deferred until tomorrow at 3 p.m., at which time the bells to call in the members will ring for not more than 15 minutes.

[Don Boudria, Liberal, Glengarry—Prescott—Russell, ON]

I rise on a point of order, Mr. Speaker. Perhaps Your Honour could find unanimous consent in the House to delay the adjournment for a maximum of 15 minutes.

I understand that the member representing the New Democratic Party participating in the adjournment debate has not yet had time to physically reach the Chamber. We could adjourn to the call of the Chair for a maximum of 15 minutes. If the member has not arrived by then at least the House would have done the respectful thing, that is given a reasonable opportunity for the member to attend.

[Randy White, Reform, Fraser Valley West, BC]

I rise on a point of order, Mr. Speaker. I say to the hon. member across the way that I too was running to the House to try to speak on the last debate so I think if we are not here in our seats we are not here in our seats. If such is not the case then I would like to rise to speak to the motion.

[The Deputy Speaker]

We took the vote. The Chair should indicate to the hon. member that I made note of the fact he was not in the Chamber. I knew he wanted to speak, but because he was not in the Chamber we had to go on to the vote, at least the voice vote.

Whether the House wants to give unanimous consent to let the member speak is entirely a question for members.

[Don Boudria, Liberal, Glengarry—Prescott—Russell, ON]

Mr. Speaker, do I understand there is unanimous consent to suspend the commencement of the adjournment debate to the call of the Chair or a maximum of 15 minutes in order to permit the New Democratic Party member to attend in the House?

[The Deputy Speaker]

The Chair takes it that there is not unanimous consent to suspend for 15 minutes to give the member for Kamloops a chance to participate in the adjournment debate.

Perhaps I could rephrase.

There is unanimous consent to wait 15 minutes. Is that agreed?

[Some hon. members]

No.

[Don Boudria, Liberal, Glengarry—Prescott—Russell, ON]

Mr. Speaker, the House theoretically would now be suspended until ten o'clock unless we give that unanimous consent because that is the adjournment time. The adjournment debate would take place at that point.

Perhaps I could ask the question again, whether we could agree to wait a maximum of 15 minutes or until the appearance of the member in order to proceed with the adjournment debate. If not, I would remind hon. members that they will be waiting one hour and 10 minutes instead of 10 minutes. Perhaps that would help the House a little.

[The Deputy Speaker]

Somebody will be waiting an hour and 10 minutes. I am not sure it will be members of the House.

[Elwin Hermanson, Reform, Kindersley—Lloydminster, SK]

Mr. Speaker, may we call it ten o'clock and adjourn?

[The Deputy Speaker]

The member is asking for unanimous consent to call it ten o'clock. Is that agreed?

[Some hon. members]

Agreed.

[The Deputy Speaker]

There is unanimous consent to call it ten o'clock.

Pursuant to Standing Order 38(5) the motion to adjourn the House is now deemed to have been adopted. The House stands adjourned until tomorrow at 10 a.m.

(The House adjourned at 8.48 p.m.)