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House of Commons Hansard #36 of the 39th Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament's site.) The word of the day was immigration.

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Fisheries and OceansCommittees of the HouseRoutine Proceedings

4:15 p.m.

Conservative

The Acting Speaker Conservative Andrew Scheer

All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Fisheries and OceansCommittees of the HouseRoutine Proceedings

4:15 p.m.

Some hon. members

Yea.

Fisheries and OceansCommittees of the HouseRoutine Proceedings

4:15 p.m.

Conservative

The Acting Speaker Conservative Andrew Scheer

All those opposed will please say nay.

Fisheries and OceansCommittees of the HouseRoutine Proceedings

4:15 p.m.

Some hon. members

Nay.

Fisheries and OceansCommittees of the HouseRoutine Proceedings

4:15 p.m.

Conservative

The Acting Speaker Conservative Andrew Scheer

In my opinion the yeas have it.

And five or more members having risen:

Call in the members.

(The House divided on the motion, which was agreed to on the following division:)

Vote #26

Committees of the HouseRoutine Proceedings

4:40 p.m.

Conservative

The Acting Speaker Conservative Andrew Scheer

I declare the motion carried.

The House will now resume with the remaining business under routine proceedings. We are under the rubric motions.

Committees of the HouseRoutine Proceedings

4:40 p.m.

NDP

Yvon Godin NDP Acadie—Bathurst, NB

Mr. Speaker, I rise on a point of order with respect to what happened here tonight with the government of the Conservative Party and with the Liberal Party.

Committees of the HouseRoutine Proceedings

4:40 p.m.

Some hon. members

Oh, oh!

Committees of the HouseRoutine Proceedings

4:40 p.m.

NDP

Yvon Godin NDP Acadie—Bathurst, NB

For the last 10 years that I have been in the House, there has been respect for all political parties in the House and for democracy.

I want to raise a point of order--

Committees of the HouseRoutine Proceedings

4:40 p.m.

Some hon. members

Oh, oh!

Committees of the HouseRoutine Proceedings

4:40 p.m.

Conservative

The Acting Speaker Conservative Andrew Scheer

Order, please. The hon. member for Acadie--Bathurst is trying to make a point of order. I hope he is making a point of order and not engaging in debate. I will allow him to continue for a few more seconds.

Committees of the HouseRoutine Proceedings

4:40 p.m.

NDP

Yvon Godin NDP Acadie—Bathurst, NB

Mr. Speaker, I hope I have the seconds that I need to make my point of order and not be judged like we have been by the Conservative Party tonight and the Liberals.

The bells were ringing. We have a trust in this House of Commons that when the bells are ringing we wait for the members to get to the House of Commons.

Committees of the HouseRoutine Proceedings

4:45 p.m.

Conservative

The Acting Speaker Conservative Andrew Scheer

I can understand the hon. member's concern but I will quote from Marleau and Montpetit. It states:

The party Whips may return to the Chamber before the bells are due to stop ringing.

It goes on to state:

...the bells had rung for the maximum period of time and Members voiced their objection by raising points of order.

It is an established practice that when the two whips, the government whip and the opposition whip, sit down that the vote will be taken.

Is the hon. member rising on a different point of order or the same point of order?

Committees of the HouseRoutine Proceedings

4:45 p.m.

NDP

Yvon Godin NDP Acadie—Bathurst, NB

Mr. Speaker, I just want clarification. Was that rule made for the 1800s when there were only the Conservatives and the Liberals in this House of Commons. It forgets that there are four parties in this House and we should respect all members of Parliament.

Committees of the HouseRoutine Proceedings

4:45 p.m.

Conservative

The Acting Speaker Conservative Andrew Scheer

I think the rules are clear on this point. It is the government and opposition whips. If the hon. member for Acadie—Bathurst wishes to examine the Standing Order, he can do so at the table.

The hon. member for Trinity--Spadina on a point of order.

Committees of the HouseRoutine Proceedings

4:45 p.m.

NDP

Olivia Chow NDP Trinity—Spadina, ON

Mr. Speaker, I am a new member. I was right by the door as the bells were ringing. Is there not common courtesy that if members are behind the curtains the Chair has allowed them to come in?

Committees of the HouseRoutine Proceedings

4:45 p.m.

Conservative

The Acting Speaker Conservative Andrew Scheer

The rules on this are very clear. If the hon. member, again, wishes to examine the Standing Orders, they very clearly set out that once the question is put members have to be in their seats for their votes to be recorded. She can do so at the table.

The hon. member for Sackville--Eastern Shore on a point of order.

Committees of the HouseRoutine Proceedings

4:45 p.m.

NDP

Peter Stoffer NDP Sackville—Eastern Shore, NS

Mr. Speaker, could you clarify once again what you just read? You talked about the whips of the government and the opposition party. Does it say anything about whips from other parties in the House of Commons?

Mr. Speaker, would you read the entire clarification to this House and put on the record what the ruling is on this particular matter?

Committees of the HouseRoutine Proceedings

4:45 p.m.

Conservative

The Acting Speaker Conservative Andrew Scheer

This is from chapter 12, page 485, of Marleau and Montpetit:

When the Government and Opposition Whips conclude that their respective Members are ready to vote, the Whips make a ceremonial return to the House, and the bells stop ringing.

I think both the Standing Orders and the House of Commons precedence are very clear on this. I do not think there needs to be more discussion on this.

I will allow the hon. member for Sackville-Eastern Shore a brief opportunity but we must move on.

Committees of the HouseRoutine Proceedings

4:45 p.m.

NDP

Peter Stoffer NDP Sackville—Eastern Shore, NS

Mr. Speaker, correct me if I am wrong, but you said whips with an S. There are more than two whips in this House.

Committees of the HouseRoutine Proceedings

4:45 p.m.

Conservative

The Acting Speaker Conservative Andrew Scheer

I just read it. It is very clearly the government and the chief opposition whips.

We will move on from this point. I think this matter is concluded. We are under the rubric of motions.

Presenting petitions. The hon. member for Oak Ridges--Markham.

Sri LankaPetitionsRoutine Proceedings

4:45 p.m.

Liberal

Lui Temelkovski Liberal Oak Ridges—Markham, ON

Mr. Speaker, I am pleased to present a petition from the good people of Oak Ridges—Markham, who call upon the House of Commons to condemn the targeted killing of the Tamilselvan, the Tamil peace negotiator, and urge the Sri Lankan government to stop its military aggression against Tamils in Sri Lanka.

Child PornographyPetitionsRoutine Proceedings

December 12th, 2007 / 4:50 p.m.

Conservative

Norman Doyle Conservative St. John's East, NL

Mr. Speaker, I want to present a petition on behalf of approximately 500 people in the St. John's area and in my riding of St. John's East.

The petitioners are horrified by pornography which depicts children. They are astounded by legal determinations that possession of such pornography is not criminal. They make the point that it is the duty of Parliament through the enactment and enforcement of the Criminal Code to protect the most vulnerable members of society from sexual abuse.

They are calling upon Parliament to take all necessary measures to ensure that possession of child pornography remains a serious criminal offence and that federal police forces should be directed to give priority to enforcing that law for the protection of children.

Laibar SinghPetitionsRoutine Proceedings

4:50 p.m.

NDP

Penny Priddy NDP Surrey North, BC

Mr. Speaker, I rise to present a petition with over 3,000 names. These petitioners are calling upon the Government of Canada to grant Mr. Laibar Singh permanent residence in Canada on humanitarian and compassionate grounds.