House of Commons Hansard #66 of the 45th Parliament, 1st session. (The original version is on Parliament's site.) The word of the day was jobs.

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Statements by Members

Question Period

The Conservatives highlight doubling grocery costs and the broader cost of living crisis. They condemn the government's corporate bailouts to companies like Algoma Steel and Stellantis, which led to job losses and unfulfilled job guarantees, questioning ministerial oversight. The party also criticizes the severe housing affordability crisis and the failure to meet construction targets.
The Liberals highlight Canada's strong economy, with low inflation and growing wages, positioning it as the strongest in the G7. They defend investments in steel and auto sectors to save jobs, criticizing Conservatives for voting against these. The party also touts tax cuts, affordable housing, and climate investments.
The Bloc criticizes the government for neglecting Quebec's interests and abandoning its climate action promises for an oil agenda. They condemn pushing dirty oil projects and pipelines, seeing it as a betrayal of climate commitments and questioning the PM's priorities.
The NDP criticizes the government for giving half a billion dollars to companies that cut thousands of jobs, while Canadians are told to sacrifice.

Criminal Code First reading of Bill C-258. The bill amends the Criminal Code to address the Supreme Court's R. v. Jordan decision, aiming to prevent sexual assault trials from being dropped due to unmet time limits. 100 words.

Petitions

An Act to implement the Protocol on the Accession of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland to the Comprehensive and Progressive Agreement for Trans-Pacific Partnership Second reading of Bill C-13. The bill implements the United Kingdom's accession to the Comprehensive and Progressive Agreement for Trans-Pacific Partnership (CPTPP). The Liberal government views it as a crucial step for trade diversification beyond the US, creating opportunities for Canadian businesses. Conservatives support free trade but criticize the government for failing to secure fair access for Canadian beef and pork exports to the UK and not addressing frozen British pensions. The Bloc Québécois supports the agreement but notes the government's non-compliance with tabling policy. 16400 words, 2 hours.

Conservation Donations Members debate Motion No. 15, which proposes enhancing federal tax credits for ecological donations and monetary contributions to conservation organizations. The goal is to encourage voluntary private land conservation, helping Canada meet its target of protecting 30% of its territory by 2030. Some question the motion's ambition and the government's broader environmental commitments, while others raise concerns about its impact on housing and First Nations. 7900 words, 45 minutes.

Canada's Auto Industry Members debate Canada's auto industry, focusing on challenges from US tariffs and the Liberal government's electric vehicle (EV) mandate. Liberals emphasize government support for workers and industry while acknowledging a pause on EV targets. Conservatives criticize trade handling and call for the EV mandate's elimination, arguing it harms jobs. The Bloc Québécois questions investment distribution, and the NDP advocates for a renewed "auto pact" and diversification away from US dependence. 34600 words, 4 hours.

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Liberal

Viviane LaPointe Liberal Sudbury, ON

Mr. Chair, my colleague talked about some of the meetings he has had and the discussions he has had, and I am wondering if in those meetings he met with the Global Automakers of Canada, or the Canadian Vehicle Manufacturers' Association, or the Automotive Industries Association of Canada, all of which have been supportive of the actions our government has taken toward protecting the jobs in this industry as well as the manufacturers. In fact, Global Automakers of Canada has stated that, with the work the government is undertaking, they are very encouraged by the response.

Has he met with some of these large groups?

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Conservative

Matt Strauss Conservative Kitchener South—Hespeler, ON

Mr. Chair, I am a simple physician from Kitchener, Ontario. I grew up in Hespeler. I represent the people of Kitchener and Hespeler, and I care about the jobs in Kitchener South—Hespeler and the Toyota plant there. All of my effort is on that plant. There are many members on this side who have met with all of those groups. Those lobby groups know not to bite the hand that feeds them. They are still working on the Liberals, begging them to take appropriate action, so, no, they are not going to come out and condemn the Liberals while they are in that situation. It is up to us to be bad cop.

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Conservative

Fred Davies Conservative Niagara South, ON

Mr. Chair, I would just like to follow up quickly with the hon. member. It seems we are in this sort of economic purgatory right now with the government. I wonder what his thoughts are on the lack of a national industrial strategy. We have seen so much stuff in this budget, so much money being wasted, so much money being spent.

I wonder what the member sees as the core issues facing Canada today in this sector.

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Conservative

Matt Strauss Conservative Kitchener South—Hespeler, ON

Mr. Chair, that is a big question for one minute. The major problem is 10 years of failed Liberal policies that have put us in such a weak position where somebody might want to have a trade war with us. We have more resources per capita than any other country. We have the space. We have the people. We have to let them get to work and get bureaucracy out of the way. The Prime Minister and his budget have been building that bureaucracy.

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NDP

Don Davies NDP Vancouver Kingsway, BC

Mr. Chair, Canada's auto industry has long been a proud cornerstone of our economy. It contributes over $16 billion to our GDP annually and supports more than 600,000 direct and indirect jobs nationwide, but today, that foundation is cracking.

For decades, Canada's auto sector has relied on a highly integrated North American supply chain dependent on just-in-time delivery and seamless cross-border co-operation, but what was once considered a strength has now been exposed as a dangerous vulnerability. Donald Trump's trade war is seriously damaging the Canadian auto industry, and our workers and communities are paying the price.

Earlier this year, the Trump administration imposed 25% tariffs on Canadian-made vehicles and parts, along with duties on steel and aluminum. Let us be very clear that these actions are totally unjustified and wrong. They violate every principle of fair trade and good international relations. They are a cold, self-interested calculation by the American President, intended to move jobs and production from Canada to the United States. These measures have driven up production costs, disrupted supply chains and eroded our position in the U.S. market, where more than 90% of Canadian auto exports are sold.

The consequences of our dependence on this single market have been devastating. In recent months, Canada has lost tens of thousands of manufacturing jobs, with Ontario seeing the greatest impact. Manufacturing employment as a share of Ontario's total workforce has now fallen below 10% for the first time since records began in 1976. This has negatively affected companies involved in direct automotive production, as well as those who indirectly support this critical industry.

Here are some notable examples. Stellantis recently announced plans to end production at its Brampton assembly plant and shipped 3,000 Canadian jobs to Illinois. In Windsor, Stellantis idled its assembly plant in April, laying off 4,500 employees and threatening up to 12,000 jobs in the auto parts supply chain. It was shocking to hear news of this betrayal.

The federal Liberal government paid Stellantis more than $220 million to upgrade its plants before this decision was announced, and another $15 billion in production subsidies were provided to Stellantis in exchange for an explicit commitment to manufacture in Canada.

This has become a disturbing pattern under the Liberal government. Just this week, Algoma Steel issued layoff notices to 1,000 workers after the Liberals gave it $400 million. Shockingly, according to Algoma's CEO, the federal government knew about these layoff plans before delivering the public funds. General Motors has also delivered a series of blows. The company plans to lay off 2,000 workers at its Oshawa plant this January. This comes after GM announced that it was pausing production at its assembly plant in Ingersoll, Ontario, putting more than 1,000 jobs at risk. Unifor Local 88 has taken the courageous position of vowing to take over the Ingersoll plant if the company attempts to remove equipment from the building.

The present Liberal government was elected largely on its promise to take an elbows-up approach to dealing with the United States. It marketed its Prime Minister as one who was able to handle Donald Trump. His economist background was touted to be just what Canada needed to protect and advance our economy, yet what have we seen to date? We have seen the Prime Minister make a series of unilateral concessions to the U.S. without securing a single gain for Canada. We have seen the Liberals remove retaliatory tariffs on the U.S. after promising Canadians we would match American tariffs one for one. In the last few months alone, we have seen $500 million of taxpayer money thrown away to companies who turned around and cut thousands of Canadian jobs. Worse still, the Liberals advanced these funds knowing the companies were going to slash Canadians' employment just before Christmas.

Workers should never be forced to physically occupy their workplace to protect equipment that Canadian taxpayers helped pay for. Canada should never have to bow down to aggressive American actions that are unfair and unjustified. Precious tax dollars should never be wasted on companies without a solid guarantee that this investment will create solid returns and jobs for Canadians and their families. Instead the federal government should do what New Democrats have long called for and stop these companies from taking our money and shipping the equipment we funded out the door.

The reality is that Canada must now take bold action to reclaim control over our auto industry. That means revisiting the principles of the auto pact, which for decades required automakers to produce at least one vehicle in Canada for every one sold here. In our view, any company that wants access to the Canadian market should be required to produce here, no matter where they are headquartered. Whether it is an American, European, Japanese, Korean or Chinese company, if it wants to sell in Canada, it must invest in Canada.

The original auto pact created thousands of jobs and made Canada a global auto leader. A modern auto pact would protect Canadian jobs, innovation and sovereignty in a sector that is vital to our future. It is important to note that it was Conservative and then Liberal policies in the late 1980s and 1990s that put Canada in this vulnerable position with the U.S. today. Those parties decided to more deeply integrate the Canadian economy with the American economy and then with the Mexican one, when the New Democrats warned that this was the wrong course of action.

It was the NDP that said then that while the Canada-U.S. trading relationship was profoundly important, we should be doing everything we can to reduce our dependence on the American market, to diversify our trade and to produce more in Canada to make our economy stronger and more self-sufficient. As a wise merchant told me in Vancouver, it is a vulnerable business that relies too heavily on one customer.

It is clear that those parties, whose poor economic planning got us into the serious economic precarity we are in today, will not be capable of getting us out of it. What we need is what the NDP called for in the late 1980s: a strong policy of economic nationalization, in which we use Canadian companies, using and adding value to Canadian resources and employing Canadian workers to build here and export to the world, just like the U.S. did to achieve its economic strength.

The Liberal government's present lack of leadership has only deepened the crisis. By its weak and ineffective response to Donald Trump, we have emboldened the U.S., and we are seeing the job losses and industrial challenges here as a result. This must be addressed and reversed immediately. We can start by saying that every vehicle sold in Canada must be matched by a vehicle produced here, as we did so successfully with the auto pact. There should be no more vehicles going across the border 12 times before being finished. Let us produce, fabricate and assemble the vehicles here as much as we can.

We must also think forward and build the vehicles of the future. By recently reversing Canada's electric vehicle mandate, the Liberal government has left the Canadian auto industry in limbo and confusion. Businesses need certainty in order to invest, yet this reversal means that Canada will be eclipsed by competitors in the race to the future. While the rest of the world is building EV supply chains, securing battery production and creating sustainable jobs, Canada is betting regressively on 20th-century technology and production like pipelines, fossil fuels and internal combustion engines.

Rather than appeasing the oil and gas sector, Canada must develop resilient supply chains for EV manufacturing, diversify its trade partners and reduce our dependence on the U.S. market once and for all. If we fail to act, we will lose not just community-sustaining jobs but an entire generation of industrial leadership. Canada cannot afford to be at the mercy of any foreign government or corporation.

Donald Trump has been clear that he wants to hurt our economy by shifting production from Canada to the U.S. We cannot let that happen. Instead of capitulation to the Trump administration, we need decisive action to protect jobs, strengthen our auto industry and build an economy that works for all—

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Tom Kmiec

Questions and comments, the hon. parliamentary secretary to the Minister of Industry.

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Marc-Aurèle-Fortin Québec

Liberal

Carlos Leitão LiberalParliamentary Secretary to the Minister of Industry

Mr. Chair, there are many issues that we share. If we discussed things, we could possibly get to some understanding. I do not agree, obviously, with everything that was said, but I do thank my colleague for mentioning that, for example, the tariffs on steel and aluminum are one of the largest contributors to the recent increase in the cost of production of automobiles in the United States and Canada.

I also would caution all colleagues here that the Stellantis story is not finished yet, so let us not jump to conclusions right away. There is more to come on that.

With respect to the issue of diversifying trade, clearly we need to do that. How do we accomplish that? How do we accomplish diversifying trade in the auto industry when, as we all know, exporting Canadian vehicles to other continents is somewhat complicated?

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NDP

Don Davies NDP Vancouver Kingsway, BC

Well, Mr. Chair, it is said that when one is in a hole, the first thing one should do is stop digging. We did not just wake up today with this kind of vulnerability in the auto sector. This is the result of policy failures by successive Liberal and Conservative governments over several decades. I was talking to a colleague earlier, from the Conservative Party, who told me that he remembers when there were tens of thousands of workers in Ontario running three shifts in a row, 24 hours a day, producing massive numbers of vehicles, and now there are hundreds of them who are walking into empty factories. That did not just happen.

What we need is a reinvigorated, robust commitment to investing in Canada. We have to stop doing what we have done for the last 40 years, which is simply to try to integrate our economy more deeply into the American one. We have to have faith in our own country. Let us invest here. Let us build our vehicles here. Let us export to other countries in the world, and let us reduce our dependency on the United States.

There will be some economic pain and adjustment to that, absolutely, but what have we learned in the last several years? We have learned that the Americans are no longer a trustworthy partner. The Prime Minister says that himself. We would be foolhardy to continue to try to repair a damaged relationship. Let us bet on Canada. Let us get more self-sufficient, build the vehicles of the future here and export them all over the world.

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Conservative

Tony Baldinelli Conservative Niagara Falls—Niagara-on-the-Lake, ON

Mr. Chair, my colleague's comments build on the weekend comments that he made. He has become a social media star, I would suggest, and it is great that he is doing that. They were great comments with regard to your concerns about this government's actions going from elbows up to, “Who cares?” Your notions about providing—

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Tom Kmiec

I have to interrupt the member. It is through the Chair. The Chair does not know what notions the member is speaking of.

I will invite the member to continue.

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Conservative

Tony Baldinelli Conservative Niagara Falls—Niagara-on-the-Lake, ON

Mr. Chair, the member indicated in his remarks that $220 million had gone to Stellantis and $400 million had gone to Algoma, and no guardrails were put in place for those dollars to flow.

What does the member think are their main concerns? Why has the government been unable to get an agreement with the United States? It has been 10 years with regard to softwood lumber. Why is the government failing so badly in its negotiations with the United States?

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NDP

Don Davies NDP Vancouver Kingsway, BC

Mr. Chair, that is an excellent question. There are probably a number of factors that go into that. I think the fundamental flaw was a decision made in the late 1980s, where it was decided that we would more closely integrate the Canadian economy into the United States' economy.

At that time, again, as I said, New Democrats felt that this was the wrong course of action. Although, obviously, our long border, our geographic proximity and all of those various factors mean we are always going to be very close trading partners with our partners to the south, to the extent possible, we needed the government to be pivoting our economy away from the United States, just in case a moment like today ever occurred. I think it was naive beyond belief in the 1980s and 1990s to think that the United States would always be benevolent and that they would always subordinate their interests to Canada's. I think we are learning that this is not the case. Donald Trump's “put America first” policy means that Canadians are second. What we have to do now is correct that.

Why the government fails to recognize that is beyond me, but unfortunately, Canadian workers and Canadian communities are paying the price for that lack of foresight now. The question for Canadians is, what do we do now? Let us invest in our country now. Let us not make the same mistake. Let us become more self-sufficient, get more value from our raw resources, build more things here, diversify our trade relationships and make Canada a stronger, independent, sovereign economy like we should have done 40 years ago.

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Liberal

Sima Acan Liberal Oakville West, ON

Mr. Chair, the member for Vancouver Kingsway is talking down our current policies. Apparently, he voted no to budget 2025, so he is not supporting our plans.

How does the NDP plan to respond concretely to U.S. tariffs? What is its plan?

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NDP

Don Davies NDP Vancouver Kingsway, BC

Mr. Chair, we are not the government. The real question should be reversed. How does the government plan to respond to U.S. tariffs? I will tell members one thing. What the Liberals should do is honour the promises they made Canadians during the election campaign, which was that they would stand up to Donald Trump, elbows up, that they would have a robust position where they would match American tariffs one for one and that they would retaliate. That is why Canadians put their faith in the Liberal Party and the Prime Minister.

What have they seen in the last six months? They have seen unilateral concession after unilateral concession, getting nothing in return. That is not what Canadians expected from the government, and it is not the tariff policy that we need. We need a strong, robust, brave, courageous policy like the New Democrats are putting forth in the House.

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Conservative

Tony Baldinelli Conservative Niagara Falls—Niagara-on-the-Lake, ON

Mr. Chair, would the hon. member not agree that there could possibly be other policies implemented by the government that have caused crises in the auto sector, for example, the lack of an industrial carbon tax in the United States and the lack of an EV mandate in the United States? The sector is telling all politicians here in the House that no one is going to be able to meet those EV targets and mandates. Why does the government continue to foist this on them, which is only going to make them less competitive?

Does the hon. member think there are steps the government can take to assist the auto sector now as well as with the tariff relief that it seeks?

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NDP

Don Davies NDP Vancouver Kingsway, BC

Mr. Chair, I very much respect my hon. colleague's perspective and experience, but I am afraid that I would have to respectfully disagree with him on a couple of points. One is that I do think the future of the auto sector is one that is going to pivot away from the internal combustion engine. I think that the most far-sighted, intelligent economies of the world will be making those investments now to build the cars of the future, not the cars of the past.

Again, I have heard time and time again from businesses over my time as an elected MP that what businesses need is certainty. They can respond to different policies but they need certainty. This lurching change in EV policy has confused the industry. I think it is bad for the environment, bad for the climate and bad for investment in this country when the government alters its position.

By the way, it is very different from what the Liberals said during the election campaign as well, which I think contributes to a sense of political cynicism in this country when voters think they are voting for one thing and they get another.

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Conservative

Rhonda Kirkland Conservative Oshawa, ON

Mr. Chair, I wonder if the member could comment on that uncertainty a bit more. That uncertainty, according to the auto manufacturers and the auto workers I have talked to, is because of the EV mandate and the fact that we have policies at home that are hurting us.

Would the member agree that these policies are hurting our auto workers and that the Liberals right now could do something about that?

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NDP

Don Davies NDP Vancouver Kingsway, BC

Mr. Chair, what I would just mention is this. One thing I have heard in this House for years is that the federal government is going to take the lead on building a nationwide system of EV charging stations. It is true that we have to build the infrastructure to support the transition to those vehicles.

The Liberals have never done that, and that is a serious problem. We need a serious government that is going to take this issue seriously. The Liberal—

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Tom Kmiec

Resuming debate, the hon. member for Niagara South.

The member will be cut off at 11 o'clock, so he has about six and a half minutes.

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Conservative

Fred Davies Conservative Niagara South, ON

Mr. Chair, I am honoured to wrap this debate up tonight.

Coming from the Niagara region, which was literally built on the auto sector, I am grateful that my friend from Niagara Falls—Niagara-on-the-Lake is here tonight to contribute to this debate. As I mentioned earlier, he worked at GM while he was going to university, as did many of my friends and many of my colleagues. I grew up in the small town of Port Colborne, and the ambition of a lot of people who grew up in my town was to get a job at GM or Ford, because it was a well-paid job with good benefits, a future and stability that would enable them to raise their family and enjoy their life.

A friend of mine, Alan Davis, who will probably be upset with me for saying this, recently said to me in Port Colborne that he was so grateful to have had the job he had for so many years. They closed the plant in St. Catharines early in his career, but every day, a group of people from St. Catharines and the Niagara region would take a bus from Niagara to Oshawa, so that they could finish their career and have a solid pension. It was a hardship for them to do that, but they did it, and he says that he is forever grateful for the job and the opportunity he had to work for that company. However, those jobs have disappeared over the years.

For a little perspective, as I said earlier, Niagara was a hub for the automotive sector. In 1969, 47% of all the jobs in Niagara were in the auto sector. Almost one in two jobs in Niagara was in the auto sector. In 2008, that number was reduced to 4,000. By 2014, it further decreased to about 2,900 but still represented about $2.5 billion of economic impact for the Niagara region. Today, as I think my colleague for Niagara Falls—Niagara-on-the-Lake said, there are only 700 direct jobs in the auto sector left in Niagara, so we went from 18,000 jobs in Niagara down to about 700 today.

The Ford glass plant has disappeared and closed. The GM engine plant is gone, as is the GM foundry. I used to be in the homebuilding business in the 1980s, and I remember building a first house for an individual. It was a brand new house for him. He had just recently retired from the foundry, and had learned before his last day that the foundry was closing forever.

I am in a situation today where I have two EV plants in my riding. One was built about two or three years ago. It was for Linamar, which built a plant in Welland to support the Ford F-150. It was going to be providing parts that would support the EV side of the Ford F-150 in Canada. However, that plant never opened. It sits about a mile and a half from where I live. It is a beautiful turnkey plant, if anyone is interested in buying it. It is on the market.

This is an example of what a Yale professor refers to as narrative economics. The government created an economic environment based on a narrative that did not have a solid foundation under it, which is the danger when governments get into the idea of narrative economics: They create something that does not exist. In this case, the company put up over $1 billion to build a plant on the basis of an economic strategy and narrative that just never materialized.

Canada is not in a position today, on any level, to support the EV sector. The EV mandate, while seemingly logical at the time, has turned out to be completely illogical, because not only are Canadians not interested in buying EV vehicles in the capacity that the government had, in its narrative, created, but we do not have the infrastructure to support that EV mandate.

The sooner the government gets rid of that mandate, the better off the narrative in the economy will be because it will give some certainty within the economy for companies to plan, including in the auto sector. That needs to happen.

The other plant in my riding is in my hometown of Port Colborne. It is the Asahi Kasei plant, which is an ion battery separator plant. It has been touted as the largest single industrial investment in the Niagara region. It is still under construction, and there is still a lot of uncertainty in the market. Hopefully, in this instance, because it is not manufacturing automobiles, it can pivot.

Asahi Kasei is one of the largest manufacturing companies in the world. It manufactures a large number of different products from Japan. I am hopeful that at least this company will be able to pivot in the event that the narrative does not happen and the economy does not support that kind of investment in the sector.

During the summer, I had the opportunity to sit down for lunch with the American ambassador to Canada—

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Tom Kmiec

It being 11 p.m., pursuant to order made on Tuesday, December 2, the committee will rise.

(Government Business No. 3 reported)

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The Deputy Speaker Tom Kmiec

Accordingly, the House stands adjourned until tomorrow at 10 a.m., pursuant to Standing Order 24(1).

(The House adjourned at 11 p.m.)