House of Commons Hansard #88 of the 45th Parliament, 1st session. (The original version is on Parliament's site.) The word of the day was benefits.

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Opposition Motion—Interim Federal Health Program Members debate a Conservative motion to review the Interim Federal Health Program (IFHP), citing its quadrupled cost and projected rise to $1.5 billion by 2030. Conservatives argue the IFHP provides deluxe benefits to failed asylum claimants, while Canadians face healthcare crises. They propose restricting benefits to emergency care and expelling foreign criminals. Liberals condemn the motion as divisive and fearmongering, highlighting government reforms like copayments and Bill C-12. Bloc and NDP members oppose the motion, stressing federal processing backlogs and humanitarian obligations, while criticizing Liberal copayments. 47500 words, 6 hours in 2 segments: 1 2.

Statements by Members

Question Period

The Conservatives criticize Liberal waste on projects like Cúram, affecting seniors' cheques. They condemn the two-tiered health care system for asylum claimants and the lack of immigration safeguards. Concerns also include housing affordability for youth, weak bail laws, and continued support for Ukraine, advocating for equipment donation.
The Liberals emphasize unwavering support for Ukraine on the invasion's fourth anniversary, announcing further aid and sanctions. They defend their immigration policies, citing reduced asylum claims and temporary workers, and advocate for bail reform. The government also highlights efforts to modernize benefits administration, increase housing affordability, and invest in health care and Indigenous services.
The Bloc condemns the Cúram fiasco as the "worst financial scandal," which has led to mistreatment of retirees and errors in their old age pensions, demanding a public inquiry. They also raise concerns about parliamentary decorum and express solidarity with Ukraine, hoping for peace.
The NDP raise concerns about the erosion of universal health care and lack of national pharmacare, also criticizing disability tax credit red tape. They express strong support for Ukraine on the invasion's anniversary, condemning war crimes.
The Green Party expresses unwavering solidarity with Ukraine, condemning Putin's cruel war. They advocate for stronger sanctions to cripple the Russian economy, seize oligarchs' assets, and tirelessly work to make peace possible.

Similarities Between Bill C-2 and Bill C-12—Speaker's Ruling The Speaker rules on a point of order concerning the similarity of government Bills C-2 and C-12. The Speaker allows Bill C-2 to proceed due to its broader scope, despite acknowledging extensive overlap. 1000 words, 10 minutes.

Sergei Magnitsky International Anti-Corruption and Human Rights Act Second reading of Bill C-219. The bill strengthens Canada's sanctions regime against human rights abuses, foreign corruption, and transnational repression. It seeks to define transnational repression, ban sanctioned officials' family members, and revoke broadcasting licenses for state-controlled media from regimes committing atrocities. While supported, Members express concerns regarding the safety of political prisoners' families and administrative burdens, aiming for amendments in committee. 7400 words, 1 hour.

Adjournment Debates

Paris Agreement commitments Elizabeth May questions the government's commitment to the Paris Agreement and the delay in releasing the nature strategy. She highlights a contradiction regarding investment tax credits for enhanced oil recovery. Wade Grant defends the government's climate action, citing carbon pricing, adaptation investments, and support for Indigenous-led solutions, but May notes Canada isn't on track to meet targets.
Youth unemployment and training Garnett Genuis raises concerns about youth unemployment and criticizes the budget's plan to cut grants for students at private career colleges. Peter Fragiskatos acknowledges the issue, blames economic uncertainty, and invites Genuis to discuss his concerns further. Genuis urges a policy change. Fragiskatos questions Genuis's support for the budget.
Food price inflation Andrew Lawton raises concerns about high food inflation and record food bank use, advocating for the removal of the carbon tax and fuel standard. Peter Fragiskatos asks if Lawton has read the Bank of Canada report on food prices, and blames global warming and drought for high food prices.
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Opposition Motion—Interim Federal Health ProgramBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

1:35 p.m.

Liberal

Carlos Leitão Liberal Marc-Aurèle-Fortin, QC

Mr. Speaker, I do agree with the issues my colleague pointed out. I do agree that people in remote communities and many other communities, such as in Montreal and Toronto, have difficulty accessing health services, but that has nothing whatsoever to do with asylum seekers, for Christ's sake. That has nothing to do with asylum seekers. Come on, guys. Wake up.

Opposition Motion—Interim Federal Health ProgramBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

1:35 p.m.

Conservative

Andrew Lawton Conservative Elgin—St. Thomas—London South, ON

Mr. Speaker, I rise on a point of order. I am sorry, but that was incredibly unparliamentary and disrespectful language that a great many Canadians would be incredibly offended was uttered in the House. I would ask the member to apologize and withdraw that comment.

Opposition Motion—Interim Federal Health ProgramBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

1:35 p.m.

The Assistant Deputy Speaker John Nater

It is unparliamentary. I ask the member to withdraw that comment, and then we can move on.

Opposition Motion—Interim Federal Health ProgramBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

1:35 p.m.

Liberal

Carlos Leitão Liberal Marc-Aurèle-Fortin, QC

Mr. Speaker, I withdraw, but I find it surprising.

Opposition Motion—Interim Federal Health ProgramBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

1:35 p.m.

Bloc

Mario Beaulieu Bloc La Pointe-de-l'Île, QC

Mr. Speaker, we know that approximately 40% of asylum seekers have settled in Quebec, even though Quebec accounts for only about 22% of Canada's population.

Does my colleague think that we should find a way to spread asylum seekers more evenly across the country and that Quebec and the provinces should be compensated?

Right now, we know that, for 2024 alone, Quebec has a shortfall of $700 million because it has not received proper compensation from the federal government. What does my colleague think about that?

Opposition Motion—Interim Federal Health ProgramBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

1:35 p.m.

Liberal

Carlos Leitão Liberal Marc-Aurèle-Fortin, QC

Mr. Speaker, I think that we should be able to ensure that asylum seekers are spread more evenly across Canada. We are not going to do that by force, and we are not going to force people to leave, but we should find a mechanism to facilitate a better spread.

Yes, we must also compensate the provinces that take in a large number of asylum seekers. These discussions are ongoing with the governments, particularly the Quebec government.

Opposition Motion—Interim Federal Health ProgramBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

1:35 p.m.

Winnipeg North Manitoba

Liberal

Kevin Lamoureux LiberalParliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons

Mr. Speaker, I am wondering if we could pick up on the point that the member raised in regard to the first question. In essence, this motion tries to bring two issues and make them one, and it then tries to portray refugees in a very negative light.

If the Conservatives wanted to talk about health care, why does the member think they did not just introduce a motion to talk about health care? I would love to have done that. Could the member maybe provide his thoughts on why they did not do that?

Opposition Motion—Interim Federal Health ProgramBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

1:35 p.m.

Liberal

Carlos Leitão Liberal Marc-Aurèle-Fortin, QC

Mr. Speaker, I have some thoughts on that, but I am afraid they probably would not be parliamentary, so I will abstain from going that way.

I find it deplorable to say that the very real problems with our health care system across Canada are the result of large numbers of asylum seekers.

Opposition Motion—Interim Federal Health ProgramBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

1:35 p.m.

Conservative

Gérard Deltell Conservative Louis-Saint-Laurent—Akiawenhrahk, QC

Mr. Speaker, I have a lot of respect for my colleague and he knows that very well. First, he is an example of an immigration success story, just like my parents. Second, for me, he is a hero of government finances in Quebec because he was the last minister to balance the budget. I hope he draws inspiration from his experiences when it comes to doing what needs to be done at the federal level.

The member talked about Roxham Road. He is well aware that anyone crossing at Roxham Road would see a sign stating that doing so was illegal, but then that was changed to “irregular”. It is the same thing, just using different words. Since my colleague talked about Roxham Road, can he tell us what he thinks of former prime minister Justin Trudeau waiting nearly a year following the agreement signed by Canada with the President of the United States before announcing that changes would be made?

For an entire year, the province of Quebec had to pay for Mr. Trudeau's silence on Roxham Road. Is my colleague proud of Justin Trudeau, his former leader ?

Opposition Motion—Interim Federal Health ProgramBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

1:35 p.m.

Liberal

Carlos Leitão Liberal Marc-Aurèle-Fortin, QC

Mr. Speaker, I have only been here since April 2025, so I will refrain from commenting on what happened before or on what should or should not have been done.

However, the problem with the safe third country agreement, the agreement that allows asylum seekers from countries considered safe to be sent back, had to be resolved. That was done. After that, Roxham Road was closed.

Opposition Motion—Interim Federal Health ProgramBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

1:40 p.m.

Conservative

Rhonda Kirkland Conservative Oshawa, ON

Mr. Speaker, I do not have to say this, but I am going to say it anyway. I am splitting my time with my beautiful seatmate, the member for Similkameen—South Okanagan—West Kootenay.

As always, it is an honour to rise on behalf of Oshawa. Of course, I speak in support of today's Conservative motion.

Oshawa is a proud and welcoming community. Our city has been shaped by generations of newcomers who came to Canada, worked hard, raised families and built strong neighbourhoods. As an example of this, every year in Oshawa we celebrate Fiesta Week, Oshawa's longest-running cultural celebration. It brings together music, dance, food and traditions from around the world that are represented in Oshawa. Families visit different pavilions, share meals and celebrate their heritage, while also celebrating what unites us as Canadians.

Fiesta Week reflects the very best of our country. It shows that immigration, when it is orderly and fair, strengthens our communities. It shows that we can honour our roots while embracing our shared Canadian identity, but for immigration to continue strengthening communities like Oshawa, the system must be credible. It must be sustainable, and it must be fair. Right now, I am afraid it is not.

The cost of the interim federal health program, or IFHP, has more than quadrupled in just four years, rising from $211 million to $896 million. It is projected to reach $1.5 billion by 2029-30.

At the same time, nearly six million Canadians cannot find a family doctor. Emergency rooms like Lakeridge Health in Oshawa are overwhelmed. Seniors are waiting months for procedures. Families are struggling to access mental health supports. In Oshawa, I hear from residents who cannot access timely care. I speak with seniors who are worried about surgery delays. I speak with young families who cannot find a primary care physician, yet, under the interim federal health program, rejected asylum claimants can access benefits that many Canadians do not have free access to. These benefits include pharmaceutical coverage, vision care, prosthetics and assistive devices, home care, nursing homes, physiotherapy, occupational and speech therapy and counselling.

Many hard-working Canadians in Oshawa do not have comprehensive drug coverage. They pay out of pocket for glasses. They fundraise for medical equipment. It is fundamentally unfair that rejected asylum claimants can access broader supplementary benefits than the taxpayers who fund the system.

At the House of Commons health committee, Conservatives learned that health care providers are charging taxpayers up to five times the provincial rates for services delivered under the interim federal health program. I will repeat that: It is five times the provincial rate. That is not sustainable, and it undermines confidence in the system.

There is another serious consequence of the government's mismanagement. The massive backlog of asylum claims, up nearly 3,000% since 2015, does not help legitimate asylum seekers. In fact, it harms them. When the system is flooded with claims, including those that are false and ineligible, processing times slow dramatically. Genuine refugees fleeing persecution are left waiting in uncertainty. They cannot properly settle. They cannot fully integrate. They are left in limbo and are at greater risk of falling between the cracks and not getting the help that Canada promised them.

A broken system fails Canadians, and it fails the very people it is supposed to protect. We cannot promise the Canadian dream if we cannot provide an efficient health care system. We cannot invite people to build their future here if we cannot ensure access to doctors, hospitals and basic care.

A dream without delivery is simply an empty promise. The motion simply offers reasonable solutions. It calls on the government to review federal benefits provided to asylum claimants in order to find savings for taxpayers. It calls on the government to review them, to take a look and see what is happening. Perhaps the extra benefits that rejected asylum claimants receive but everyday Canadians do not should be restricted.

I will give an example of that briefly. My sister had a terrible injury. She broke her leg. It was so bad that she expected to take six months to recover, and of course she was signed up for physiotherapy. When she called to get the physiotherapy that was covered, she found out she had to wait six months before she could see someone for that. This is the backlog that we are talking about. She is supposed to be walking again by the time she is supposed to start physiotherapy to learn to walk again, so let us make this fair for the Canadians who fund the system.

The motion calls on the government to review federal benefits provided to asylum claimants in order to find savings for taxpayers. It calls to restrict federal benefits received by rejected asylum claimants to emergency life-saving health care, so there would be no denial of care, as the New Democrats are also trying to claim. We would not be restricting refugee health benefits. We would be restricting them for those who have been rejected and those who perhaps have lied in claiming refugee status, and have been denied. That would ensure that we remain humane while restoring fairness.

The motion calls for transparency through an annual report to Parliament on IFHP spending, particularly on supplementary benefits that Canadian citizens themselves do not receive, and it calls for policies to immediately expel foreign nationals convicted of serious crimes in Canada. The public safety of Canadians depends on it. The motion calls for these policies, and it is very important that public safety be put first.

The motion is about protecting the integrity of a system that has allowed communities like mine in Oshawa to continue to flourish. When immigration is managed responsibly, it strengthens our workforce, enriches our culture and builds vibrant cities. When it is mismanaged, costs spiral, backlogs grow and public confidence erodes. Conservatives believe we can restore balance, and that is all we are looking for. We can protect genuine refugees, and we want to. We can make that happen. We can reduce backlogs so legitimate claims are processed quickly. We can ensure that benefits are fair to taxpayers, and we can make sure that before expanding intake, we have enough jobs, enough housing and the capacity in our health care system to care as we would love to.

That is how we would preserve both compassion and fairness, and I think we can do it. We are simply calling on the government to help us help it preserve compassion and fairness. That is how we would better support communities like mine in Oshawa, Durham Region and across the country, and that is how we ensure that the Canadian dream remains real and attainable for those who come here and for the Canadians who have built this country.

For those reasons, I urge all members of the House to support the motion. I welcome all comments and questions as we continue in this debate.

Opposition Motion—Interim Federal Health ProgramBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

1:45 p.m.

Liberal

Guillaume Deschênes-Thériault Liberal Madawaska—Restigouche, NB

Mr. Speaker, if our colleague is truly motivated by a sincere desire to improve public health issues, why not table a motion specifically addressing that issue today?

This is similar to other Conservative motions we have seen recently that have linked crime to immigration. Today, we are unfortunately seeing renewed attempts to establish connections between health care, immigration, and crime. I find it especially unfortunate to see opposition members attempting to make such connections.

I would like to ask my colleague what evidence she is using to justify the connections made in today's motion and how this approach actually contributes to improving public health. I believe it is more about polarizing the debate. I would like to hear her comments on that.

Opposition Motion—Interim Federal Health ProgramBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

1:50 p.m.

Conservative

Rhonda Kirkland Conservative Oshawa, ON

Mr. Speaker, I do not think that the member is quite understanding. As an educational therapist, I look for evidence-based solutions for things all the time. This is simply what this Conservative motion is proposing: an evidence-based solution. The interim federal health program has quadrupled. Canadians are having a hard time finding a doctor and getting care. It is a simple cause and effect. Let us help the Canadians who fund this system. Let us help the refugees who are here to seek help, and let us work on that together, compassionately and fairly.

Opposition Motion—Interim Federal Health ProgramBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

1:50 p.m.

Bloc

Gabriel Ste-Marie Bloc Joliette—Manawan, QC

Mr. Speaker, I have two questions for my hon. colleague.

First, does she agree that the main problem with regard to asylum claims is the processing time, which is currently more than 40 months?

Let us look at Europe, for example, which is dealing with waves of migration and where officials have made a significant effort to reduce processing times. In France, the processing time is six months, and in Germany, it is eight months.

Should this government do the same?

Second, the last part of the motion talks about passing policies to “immediately expel foreign nationals convicted of serious crime in Canada”. Currently, convicted criminals must serve their sentences and are then deported. Under this motion, they would no longer have to serve their sentences here, and there is no guarantee that they would serve them in another country.

Could my hon. colleague comment on that?

Opposition Motion—Interim Federal Health ProgramBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

1:50 p.m.

Conservative

Rhonda Kirkland Conservative Oshawa, ON

Mr. Speaker, I will focus more on the second question, simply because I sit on the Standing Committee for Public Safety and National Security. I speak to CBSA agents and others quite often who tell me that they are concerned by the number of false claimants who are coming to Canada and that it feels as though it is 1% who are really legitimate refugees. Juxtapose that with the fact that we have violent criminals who are not Canadians staying in Canada: There are 10,000 plus, I think, in the GTA, and right now we have only seven CBSA agents who are actively working on inland enforcement and to make sure we expel those people. We need to do something about that, and we need to do it quickly.

Opposition Motion—Interim Federal Health ProgramBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

1:50 p.m.

Conservative

Marilyn Gladu Conservative Sarnia—Lambton—Bkejwanong, ON

Mr. Speaker, it is clear that there are refugees who were not legitimate and who have had their claims rejected. When they get a letter from the government saying they are going to be deported, they evaporate into the ether. There are maybe 500,000 of them, but the government is pretending there is not a problem.

Why does the member think the Liberals are so naive about the disaster they created with immigration?

Opposition Motion—Interim Federal Health ProgramBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

1:50 p.m.

Conservative

Rhonda Kirkland Conservative Oshawa, ON

Mr. Speaker, the simple answer to that is that they are not naive. I think they know exactly what the problems are. I think they know what the issues are, but they do not want to admit that the Liberal government's terrible policies over the past 11 years have caused the problems. To admit there is an issue would be to admit that they are the reason for it.

Opposition Motion—Interim Federal Health ProgramBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

1:50 p.m.

Conservative

Helena Konanz Conservative Similkameen—South Okanagan—West Kootenay, BC

Mr. Speaker, I rise today to speak to our Conservative motion regarding serious inefficiencies in the federal health care and immigration systems.

For those unaware, let us look at the cold, hard facts that were uncovered by the work of my colleagues and me at the parliamentary health committee last fall regarding the serious effects Canada's dysfunctional immigration system is having on our health care system, especially the effects of the interim federal health program.

It is a fact that thousands of my constituents and hundreds of thousands of British Columbians have no family doctor. It is a fact that residents in my riding often discover their emergency rooms are suddenly closing for hours, if not whole days, because of a chronic shortage of health care workers. It happened just this past weekend in Princeton. It is a fact that residents in my riding must wait months, if not years, to see the specialists they need, sometimes driving on treacherous winter roads to reach them.

It is also a fact that if someone is, for example, a non-Canadian arrested in Surrey in connection with extortion, or in connection with arson in Ontario, a shooting in Edmonton, or auto theft in the Lower Mainland, they can immediately file a refugee claim for asylum and be granted access to the interim federal health program. For Conservatives, this is not hypothetical. It is a real case, in which these individuals made real claims. Even our premier, David Eby, thought it was outrageous.

Conservatives tried to amend Liberal legislation in the committee to fix this. Our amendments would have prevented non-citizens convicted of serious crimes from filing bogus asylum claims in an attempt to escape deportation. Still, the Liberals voted against this common-sense change to our laws.

I know the Liberals will say we should let the process play out. However, even when clearly fraudulent claims filed by violent suspected criminals are rightly thrown out by our refugee board, these people still do not lose access to free specialty health programs. In contrast, they file an appeal, which may take years to be heard due to backlogs averaging up to four years.

Even with a budget of nearly $350 million and 2,500 employees, the Immigration and Refugee Board of Canada is growing its backlog year after year. The Parliamentary Budget Officer's report, using IRCC data, shows that this backlog will only grow for the rest of the decade. Even when these bogus refugee claimants are denied at every stage, and the fraudulent visitors lose all rights to remain in Canada and are told they must leave, until and if they are physically walked out of the country, they can still walk down the street and receive vision care or physiotherapy, things that the average Canadian does not have access to.

Here is the worst thing about these departures. The IRCC cannot even tell parliamentarians how many are actually departing. I guess it expects these fraudulent cases to walk out the door on their own and leave behind free health care. That is the interim federal health program as it exists today, as the Parliamentary Budget Officer confirmed when his office appeared before the health committee just a couple of weeks ago. Canadians have increasingly lost confidence in the immigration and refugee system under the Liberal government, and it is easy to see why.

No governing party in this House has ever opposed the admission of real refugees from Syria, Ukraine or Afghanistan. No governing party has ever opposed the interim federal health program. Canada is a generous nation to those who need our generosity. If someone comes to Canada blinded by acid, without a limb, from a war-torn country, no one is advocating leaving them in the street instead of ensuring they have rehabilitative care.

What Canadians have come to oppose is the bent shape that our refugee system exists in today. A complete failure by the Liberal government to properly manage the admission of temporary foreign workers and international students into non-essential jobs and fake universities has led to this crisis.

Guests to our country quickly realize they can create nearly endless extensions, with access to special medical care that they do not have in their own home countries, by filing asylum claims that everyone knows do not meet any standard of refugee. I do not blame these people for doing this. It is the government's fault for allowing the loophole to exist in the—

Opposition Motion—Interim Federal Health ProgramBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

2 p.m.

The Speaker Francis Scarpaleggia

Unfortunately, I must interrupt the hon. member at this point so that we can go on with statements and then question period. The hon. member will have approximately four minutes left in her speech, if she so chooses, after question period and special statements.

CubaStatements by Members

February 24th, 2026 / 2 p.m.

Green

Elizabeth May Green Saanich—Gulf Islands, BC

Mr. Speaker, in an open letter to the world from an island, an ordinary woman denounces a crime that the world refuses to see.

She writes, “My name is like millions of others”, Ikay Romay. “I am an ordinary Cuban woman—a daughter, a sister [and] I write this with a broken heart and trembling hands. What my people [are experiencing] today is not a crisis.” It is a crime. “It is slow, calculated murder.... And the world looks the other way.”

Let us look at Cuba, at what the United States is doing to it, and ask ourselves, “Which side of history do I want to be on?”

This is a crime. I ask that we share her message. Children and babies are dying in incubators because of blockades. People are dying for lack of medication. I ask that we do not look the other way. Thousands of people sharing her message will make a difference.

Black History MonthStatements by Members

2 p.m.

Liberal

Ginette Lavack Liberal St. Boniface—St. Vital, MB

Mr. Speaker, as Black History Month comes to a close, we are reminded that meaningful celebration does not happen on its own. It happens because strong community organizations carry that work forward year after year. In my riding, two outstanding organizations are doing exactly that.

The Black History Month Celebration Committee has been a pillar in Winnipeg since 1981. It continues to lead Manitoba's largest Black History Month celebrations, bringing together thousands to honour the history, achievements and contributions of Black Manitobans.

Noir et fier, an initiative of Wilgis Agossa, together with its partners, created an inclusive francophone space that celebrates Black voices, promotes intercultural dialogue and puts young people front and centre.

Black History Month is strongest when it is rooted in community.

Through the efforts of these organizations, celebration becomes education, dialogue and social cohesion.

I thank them for their leadership and commitment.

Black History MonthStatements by Members

2 p.m.

Conservative

Jamie Schmale Conservative Haliburton—Kawartha Lakes, ON

Mr. Speaker, Canada has a long and painful history of forced and coerced sterilization, particularly affecting indigenous peoples. For decades, individuals were subjected to permanent procedures without their informed consent, including in residential schools and in northern and remote communities.

While many believe this practice belongs to the past, it does not. Survivors continue to come forward today, sharing experiences of pressure, coercion and procedures performed without true consent.

I am proud to sponsor Bill S-228, introduced by Senator Yvonne Boyer, which will clarify in the Criminal Code that performing a sterilization without consent constitutes aggravated assault. This legislation will strengthen accountability and affirm that reproductive autonomy is a fundamental human right.

Black History MonthStatements by Members

2 p.m.

An hon. member

Mr. Speaker, I rise on a point of order.

Black History MonthStatements by Members

2 p.m.

The Speaker Francis Scarpaleggia

There are no points of order during S. O. 31s.

Black History MonthStatements by Members

2 p.m.

An hon. member

It is unbelievable, the amount of noise. We cannot hear his statement.