House of Commons Hansard #136 of the 45th Parliament, 1st session. (The original version is on Parliament's site.) The word of the day was debate.

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Income Tax Act Second reading of Bill C-269. The bill proposes an investment tax credit for industrial waste heat recovery. Conservative MP Greg McLean argues it creates power while reducing greenhouse gas emissions. The Liberal government opposes the bill, asserting it is redundant with existing incentives. The Bloc Québécois favors referring the legislation to committee to clarify its scope and impact on the manufacturing sector. 8000 words, 1 hour.

Motion That Debate Be Not Further Adjourned Members debate a Liberal motion to end debate on government business. Liberal MP Wayne Long justifies the move by citing unproductive filibustering hindering the cabinet agenda. Conversely, Conservative, Green, and Bloc MPs warn the government is using closure to limit democratic oversight and rush legislation like Bill C-30 without sufficient study. 4700 words, 35 minutes.

Government Business No. 12—Proceedings on BillC‑30 Members debate the government's use of time allocation to expedite Bill C-30. Opposition MPs, including those from the Bloc Québécois and the Green Party, criticize the Liberals for suppressing parliamentary scrutiny on contentious issues like pesticide regulation and airline passenger complaints. Conversely, Liberal members champion the legislation's provisions for economic stability and national social programming. 6000 words, 35 minutes.

Statements by Members

Question Period

The Conservatives criticize the Prime Minister as the only G7 leader facing a recession while spending $1 million on catering. They highlight record food bank use and call for removing the GST on used cars. They also slam the broken bail system, raise concerns for seniors, and question the Treasury Board President’s competence.
The Liberals highlight strong economic growth and job creation, noting record foreign direct investment. They defend affordability measures like the groceries and essentials benefit and dental care, while touting building infrastructure and high-speed rail. Additionally, they emphasize bail and sentencing reform and support for men's health.
The Bloc accuses the government of abandoning middle powers to please Donald Trump by scrapping digital taxes and approving banned pesticides. They also urge the Liberals to drop their pipeline obsession and prioritize wildfire safety.
The NDP urges the government to pass Bill S-2 and eliminate sexism and racism from the Indian Act.

Government Business No. 12—Proceedings on Bill C-30 Members debate a programming motion to expedite Bill C-30. Liberals defend the bill’s affordability measures, asserting that Conservative filibustering necessitates limiting debate. Conservatives reject this, labeling the motion a guillotine on accountability that masks reckless fiscal management. Concurrently, Bloc and Green members express intense frustration regarding both the government's environmental policies and the procedural erosion of democratic processes involved in forcing the legislation through the House. 33600 words, 5 hours.

Bill C-9—Time Allocation Motion Members debate a Liberal government motion to limit remaining debate on Bill C-9, which amends the Criminal Code regarding hate propaganda and religious sites. Conservatives allege procedural irregularities and express concerns about religious freedoms, while Liberals defend the legislation as vital for safety and accuse the opposition of spreading misinformation. The Chair concludes the session by calling for a recorded division. 4400 words, 35 minutes.

Combatting Hate Act Bill C-9. The bill amends the Criminal Code to combat hate-motivated conduct and propaganda. The Bloc Québécois supports the legislation for strengthening Attorney General oversight and religious-based hate provisions. While the Liberal government argues it protects vulnerable communities, Conservative MPs contend it creates unnecessary censorship, risks infringing on religious liberty, and duplicates existing laws already sufficient to prosecute hate-motivated crimes. 9600 words, 1 hour.

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Government Business No. 12—Proceedings on Bill C-30Government Orders

5:20 p.m.

Conservative

Grant Jackson Conservative Brandon—Souris, MB

Mr. Speaker, although I disagreed with large segments of my colleague's speech, the part she ended on is the most important one in her intervention today, which is the unacceptable nature and the affront to Westminster parliamentary democracy we have seen on display last week and now this week with programming motions being used at whim by the parliamentary secretary to the government House leader and the rest of his administration.

I wonder if that member could elaborate just a little further on the damage that does to public trust in the institution of this Parliament and how it operates on behalf of all Canadians.

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5:20 p.m.

Green

Elizabeth May Green Saanich—Gulf Islands, BC

Mr. Speaker, it is deeply offensive. The point of Parliament is to actually have respectful debate and discussion and make sure bills are adequately studied before they are passed. The track record of programming motions on Bill C-5 and this one on Bill C-30 sets extremely dangerous precedence.

Parliament is not a mere waste of time for a CEO in a hurry. Parliament is essential to Westminster parliamentary democracy, and we are here to represent our constituents. Regardless of party, views need to be heard. Again, if we all could work together better, it would be by not allowing prepared written speeches.

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5:20 p.m.

Bloc

Martin Champoux Bloc Drummond, QC

Mr. Speaker, I congratulate my colleague from Saanich—Gulf Islands on her speech.

Obviously, she represents the Green Party, the environmental party. I would like her to tell me a little about this government's backsliding on the environment since this Prime Minister took office last year. For example, think of the pipeline agreements, the rollback of the pesticide regulations, and the continued investment in tax breaks for oil companies.

I would like to know if my colleague is still optimistic about the fight against climate change under that party's leadership.

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5:20 p.m.

Green

Elizabeth May Green Saanich—Gulf Islands, BC

Mr. Speaker, I completely agree with my Bloc Québécois colleague.

It is true that, over the past year, we have lost policies aimed at reducing greenhouse gas emissions. The government has gone in a completely different directions from what the Liberal Party's platform proposed a year ago. We now have a government whose goal is to increase greenhouse gas emissions.

With these policies, it is absolutely impossible to meet the targets we are legally bound by under the Paris Agreement.

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5:25 p.m.

Liberal

John-Paul Danko Liberal Hamilton West—Ancaster—Dundas, ON

Mr. Speaker, I tremendously respect the member opposite's experience here, and she said something really interesting. She said that she has never seen anything like the current government for moving fast. A year ago, Canadians elected a serious and pragmatic government in a time of tremendous uncertainty, and I would say that what we were exactly elected to do is to move fast and with purpose.

Would she not agree that is what Canadians expect out of this government?

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5:25 p.m.

Green

Elizabeth May Green Saanich—Gulf Islands, BC

Mr. Speaker, I am glad the hon. member for Hamilton West—Ancaster—Dundas respects my experience in this place because I started, our very first days together, sitting in that corner, trying to acquaint him with standing orders about heckling. I do believe that when I say “move fast”, what I mean is ignoring the requirements of democracy that bills be adequately considered before they are passed. I will remind him, as the hon. former minister of the environment has reminded other Liberals, that climate change was mentioned 28 times in the platform of the hon. member and pipelines were not mentioned once.

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5:25 p.m.

Conservative

Jason Groleau Conservative Beauce, QC

Mr. Speaker, I will be sharing my time with my esteemed colleague from Richmond Hill South.

I rise today not to engage in petty politics, but to talk about something very simple that everyone in our regions understands well, except the Liberals, of course: respect for hard‑earned money.

Back home in Beauce, money does not grow on trees. People earn their money early in the morning, with both hands in the dirt, behind a counter, at a construction site, or at a factory. When people earn it that way, they learn to respect it. It is with that respect in mind that I will talk about Bill C-30 and the Liberal government's economic snapshot.

The Liberals projected a $38‑billion deficit in budget 2025. For the current fiscal year, the Liberal Prime Minister is now projecting a $67‑billion deficit. Yes, $67 billion. That is a lot of money. That is not just pocket change.

The worst part is that he is projecting even bigger deficits in the years to come. Deficits can happen in a crisis. However, when they become a habit, Canadians have the right to ask a very simple question: Where are the Liberals' results? There are none. The real issue is not just how much money is being spent, but what we are getting in return.

Take housing, for example. While people are struggling to find somewhere to live due to skyrocketing inflation in rents, the Liberals say they are going to create yet another layer of bureaucracy with Build Canada Homes and a budget of $13 billion.

The results are modest. I am not the one saying that; it is the former parliamentary budget officer himself. According to his estimate, Build Canada Homes will help build 26,000 homes over five years. His conclusion is that this is a “modest” contribution. The Liberals are spending $13 billion on a modest contribution; meanwhile, young families are unable to get on the property ladder and young people are desperately searching for affordable housing. Canadians do not want announcements; they want more homes. They want construction. They do not want words; they want action.

Now I will turn to another obscene expenditure that I still cannot wrap my head around: the spaceport in Canso, Nova Scotia. To recap the situation one more time, a company is leasing this plot of land from the province for $13,500 a year. The Liberal government went to this company and offered to sublet the land from it for $20 million a year. It also decided it would be smart to sign a 10-year lease, for a total of $200 million. That is money down the drain. That is insane.

Why? What is on this land that is costing us $200 million? There is a 25-foot-by-35-foot concrete pad, two sea cans and a gravel road. I could build a dozen just like it with pleasure. I could do that, no problem.

The time will come when the Liberals will have to explain themselves to taxpayers. This is insane. We have not received any answers. We have been here for over a year, and we are asking questions, but we are still not getting answers. Nevertheless, there were 13 meetings with the minister's team, during which someone thought it would be a great idea to spend $200 million on a concrete pad.

Now let us talk about an issue that is close to my heart: the gun buyback program. What a waste of money.

According to the former parliamentary budget officer's estimates, the compensation could cost nearly $800 million. That does not even include the program's administrative costs. That is nearly three-quarters of a billion dollars to target law-abiding citizens first and foremost. Meanwhile, too many illegal weapons are crossing our borders and fuelling real crime. That is the real target. It takes courage, but the Liberals do not have it.

The problem is not the hunters in Saint-Georges or the sport shooters in Sainte-Marie, these proud people who obey the law. I have travelled all over Quebec and met with hundreds of hunters and thousands of sport shooters. These families feel they are being unfairly targeted. These are people who play by the rules, who complete the training, who obtain their licences, and who follow every law. Today, this government is treating them as if they are the problem. That is unfair. I can assure members of one thing: I have not finished my tour, and I will never give up on this issue.

As everyone knows, I come from a region built by entrepreneurs, farmers and manufacturers who export all over North America. Beauce is a beautiful region. I own businesses myself. In real life, when a person orders $100,000 worth of goods and only sells $60,000 worth, they lose their credit. That is exactly what the Liberals are doing with our children's credit card. When a government cannot balance the books, it should make adjustments, admit its mistakes, start over and move forward for the people. The government should be there for Canadians, not for its cronies.

A country's wealth comes not from the government, but from businesses. It is businesses that create wealth. They want to grow, hire people and conquer new markets, but they are coming up against endless red tape. The government is approving megaprojects that take years to come to fruition, but these are nothing more than announcements. Businesses have to deal with endless paperwork, which discourages even the best of them. This is a matter of economic survival. If we do not address this now, our children will pay the price and their standard of living will suffer.

The Prime Minister talks about developing new markets. I agree with that. Everyone agrees. It will not pay off for 15 years, but we agree. In the meantime, we must never forget one fundamental reality. I just did an economic tour of Quebec with some of my colleagues. Our number one partner will always be the United States. That is just geography.

Our steel and aluminum companies are facing 50% tariffs. Since April 2, as I mentioned here in the House, the metal tariffs were originally set at 25%, but for a garage door, for example, the tariffs are now at 50% on the entire product. Our businesses cannot compete. They are not getting any support from this government. It is that simple.

Let us talk about other problems affecting my riding of Beauce and many regions across Quebec. Our unemployment rate is under 2.8%. We have no workers, no people to work. The government must give us the tools we need to attract workers, produce goods and be competitive.

The one-size-fits-all approach that the Liberals in Ottawa are applying across the country is not working. We need flexibility, smart thinking, tact, and a clear understanding of how to support businesses. When the Liberals spend money without getting results, it is not just numbers on a page. It means lost opportunities for our regions.

Agriculture is not just an important economic sector. It is the cornerstone of food security in our regions. My colleague here in the back could speak to that importance. Our families in rural areas, thousands of producers, get up every morning to feed Canadians. However, there is not much for them in the budget. Our farmers feel abandoned. Production costs are skyrocketing. Just think about fuel, transportation, machinery, fertilizer, energy, and interest on loans. Who can borrow at current interest rates? Meanwhile, consumers are paying the price at the grocery store.

To conclude, I want to say this: When I come here, I think of the families who work so hard every morning. They are struggling to put food on the table. They are struggling to find somewhere to live. I think of our local manufacturers who are watching their profit margins shrink. I think of the entrepreneurs who take risks, create jobs and keep our economy going. These people are not asking for the moon. They are asking for a government that understands them, that respects them, that manages their money as if it were its own. They are asking for a government that can boost productivity, get projects moving and actually deliver on them, not just announce them.

We must defend our workers and our businesses against the U.S. tariffs.

Canadians deserve to have their money managed diligently.

Government Business No. 12—Proceedings on Bill C-30Government Orders

5:35 p.m.

Winnipeg North Manitoba

Liberal

Kevin Lamoureux LiberalParliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons

Mr. Speaker, I believe my friend underestimates how important it is to recognize many of the things that have been occurring. When the member talks about the importance of exports, we now have exports beyond the Canada-U.S.A. border up something like 17% since the last election. There have been significant increases. Trade agreements, which will deal with a wide spectrum of agricultural goods plus many other items, are increasing. We have had legislation passed and agreements signed off on defence.

The province of Quebec, as an example, will do exceptionally well with those expanded trade opportunities. Could the member provide his comments on that issue?

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5:35 p.m.

Conservative

Jason Groleau Conservative Beauce, QC

Mr. Speaker, I invite my colleague to come to Beauce. He is talking about a 17% increase in exports to other countries. That is 17% of nothing, while 85% of our business is with the United States. That is what we need to focus on. It is indeed important to develop markets, but you just said it yourself. That is a 17% increase on practically nothing.

Do not go telling businesses in Beauce that they are happy with this. We do business with the United States. We have to resolve the issue with the Americans.

Government Business No. 12—Proceedings on Bill C-30Government Orders

5:35 p.m.

The Deputy Speaker Tom Kmiec

Before we continue, I want to remind the member to address the Chair, not other members directly.

The hon. member for Abitibi—Témiscamingue.

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5:35 p.m.

Bloc

Sébastien Lemire Bloc Abitibi—Témiscamingue, QC

Mr. Speaker, I thank my colleague from Beauce for his remarks. He and I have something in common. We both come from former Créditiste regions. That is worth pointing out.

He told us that he was making a non‑partisan appeal. I would like to hear him elaborate. Can he name any good things that came out of the economic statement, particularly in relation to the 25% tariffs that Donald Trump imposed on all products containing steel and aluminum? Can he think of anything that the Liberals have done to help people in the sector? I personally do not see anything. I would like to hear his thoughts.

Is he more optimistic than he was over the last month with his hockey pool? I would also like to hear his thoughts on that.

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5:35 p.m.

Conservative

Jason Groleau Conservative Beauce, QC

Mr. Speaker, I would like to congratulate my colleague, who won the pool.

I am still thinking. It has been 30 seconds since the question and I am trying to think of one good thing the Liberals have done, but unfortunately, they let the steel industry down. That answers the question.

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5:35 p.m.

Conservative

Helena Konanz Conservative Similkameen—South Okanagan—West Kootenay, BC

Mr. Speaker, I largely share my colleague's view.

I would like to know what he thinks about the fact that the Liberals refuse to acknowledge the economic situation in Canada, that they do not believe Canadians are going through a difficult time, and that they believe everything is fine for the average Canadian.

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5:35 p.m.

Conservative

Jason Groleau Conservative Beauce, QC

Mr. Speaker, I will answer my colleague. That is what we call “politician speak”. The Liberals know full well that we have had two consecutive quarters of deficit. They know full well that the market is very tough. They know we are in a recession. They know we are the only G7 country in a recession.

The fact is that they are masters of illusion. What is it that you say, Jacques? These are nothing but illusions.

Government Business No. 12—Proceedings on Bill C-30Government Orders

5:40 p.m.

The Deputy Speaker Tom Kmiec

I must remind the hon. member that members are not to be called by their first names. Even if they are sitting next to us and wish to offer advice, we should instead refer to their riding, such as Lévis—Lotbinière, in this case.

We have time for one more question. The hon. member for Hastings—Lennox and Addington—Tyendinaga has the floor.

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5:40 p.m.

Conservative

Shelby Kramp-Neuman Conservative Hastings—Lennox and Addington—Tyendinaga, ON

Mr. Speaker, I thank my colleague for his speech. It was very good.

Two weeks ago, we visited several communities in Quebec and we heard the same concern in all of them. Workers and businesses are worried about the tariffs and about the uncertainty surrounding CUSMA.

My question is simple. In your opinion, what impact will this have on Quebec's economy, and what can the government do to reassure people and support Quebec businesses?

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5:40 p.m.

The Deputy Speaker Tom Kmiec

I must issue a reminder before I turn the floor over to the member for Beauce for his right of reply.

I am going to say this part in English to make sure I am understood. Members have to speak through the Chair. In French, when members use “vous”, it actually means they are speaking directly to the member and not through the Chair. This is just a reminder to be careful when using the third person.

The hon. member for Beauce has 30 seconds to respond.

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5:40 p.m.

Conservative

Jason Groleau Conservative Beauce, QC

Mr. Speaker, I would like to thank my colleague for her excellent work over the past few weeks.

The American tariffs are causing a number of problems right now, especially the section 232 tariffs. Chinese and Asian steel is being dumped here in Canada. We need to protect our industry. The first thing that I would do would be to protect our steel industry.

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5:40 p.m.

Conservative

Vincent Ho Conservative Richmond Hill South, ON

Mr. Speaker, when historians study the fiscal decline of nations, they often note that collapse rarely begins with a dramatic event. It begins with habits: habits of indiscipline, habits of euphemism, habits of pretending that borrowing is prosperity, that inflationary spending is strategy and that accounting definitions can be stretched indefinitely without consequence. This Liberal so-called spring economic update is not merely an illustration of Liberal-managed decline. It is not merely a Liberal rebranding exercise. It is a statement of Liberal governing philosophy, and that philosophy is simple: spend now, explain later, redefine terms when necessary and hope Canadians do not notice the bill until it arrives.

Canadians do not need a Ph.D. in economics to notice that these Liberal habits are costing them. They notice the Liberal money-printing inflationary deficits at the grocery store. They notice the Liberal taxes at the gas pump. They notice when their children conclude that home ownership is no longer a Canadian expectation but a lottery ticket. They notice it when this Liberal Prime Minister is the only G20 leader to deliver his economy a recession. They notice when this Liberal Prime Minister lectures them about making more sacrifices while failing to exercise any restraint when adding billions more to the national credit card.

In public economics, there is a concept known as “government failure”. It is the recognition that governments, especially when they are run by Liberals, are imperfect institutions. Similar to markets, they are subject to distorted incentives, information asymmetries, bureaucratic self-preservation and Liberal political opportunism. Liberal Bill C-30 is government failure bound in legislative form.

This Liberal Prime Minister promised discipline. He promised prudence. He promised to spend less and invest more. Instead, in just over a year, this Liberal Prime Minister managed to nearly double the deficit left behind by the last Liberal Prime Minister. Think about that. After a decade of fiscal excess under one Liberal Prime Minister, another Liberal Prime Minister arrived promising sobriety and immediately ordered another round at the bar. That is not renewal. That is relapse. The Liberals call this investment, but Canadians know it as credit card budgeting.

When a household continually puts ordinary expenses on a credit card, not because of emergency, not because of catastrophe, but because of chronic overspending, that household is not building wealth. It is mortgaging its future. The same principle applies to nations, yet the Liberal government behaves as though fiscal arithmetic has been repealed. In academic public finance, debt sustainability matters because interest compounds, fiscal flexibility narrows and eventually governments lose the ability to respond to genuine crises.

The independent fiscal watchdog, the Parliamentary Budget Officer, has once again raised the alarm. The PBO warns that this Liberal abandonment of traditional definitions of capital spending continues to undermine transparency. It is not a trivial accounting disagreement. It goes to the heart of the fiscal integrity of this Liberal government. Capital spending traditionally implies that the creation of productive assets occur, things that generate future economic value, public utility or measurable returns, or things like infrastructure, such as a new road or a new hospital. However, when Liberal accounting definitions become elastic, everything all of a sudden becomes capital. When everything becomes capital, nothing is.

The PBO has explicitly stated that the lack of definitions prevents this Liberal Prime Minister from ensuring that the Liberal government's fiscal anchor remains balanced. In essence, the independent officer charged with scrutinizing public finances cannot determine whether this Liberal government's own numbers mean what the government claims they mean. That should alarm every member of the House.

It is not only the PBO. The International Monetary Fund, the IMF, a global agency that the Liberals love to cite, has now called on Canada to adopt international accounting standards to improve transparency, ensure comparability over time and maintain a clear connection between borrowing and debt. Why? It is because this Liberal government's current fiscal presentation no longer inspires confidence. When both the Parliamentary Budget Officer and the International Monetary Fund are warning that our accounting lacks transparency, this is not a partisan talking point. It becomes a credibility crisis, and credibility matters.

In public choice theory, governments, especially like this Liberal government, are not assumed to act as neutral benevolent maximizers of public welfare. Rather, they respond to incentives. Liberal politicians prefer spending money today while shifting costs tomorrow through higher taxes, higher inflation, higher deficits and higher interest costs. Liberal bureaucracies seek budget maximization at the expense of taxpayers, who are often deprived of any input by their Liberal governments. Liberal insider interest groups seek concentrated benefits, siphoning money from public coffers while dispersing costs across everyday Canadians. This Liberal spring fiscal update reflects every one of those pathologies.

The PBO also warned that repeated spending increases beyond previous projections will “erode the credibility of fiscal plans and weaken confidence in the fiscal framework and raise concerns about long-term [debt] sustainability.” That is the exact credibility crisis that this Liberal Prime Minister finds himself in, because a fiscal anchor that moves whenever politically inconvenient is not an anchor at all. It is driftwood. What is the consequence? It is higher costs, higher debt and higher inflation, but maybe that is the new world order that this Liberal Prime Minister wants Canadians to live in.

Canadians are now paying $59 billion annually in debt interest. The PBO projects that this could rise to $80 billion by the decade's end, which is 13% of federal revenues. That is approximately $1,900 per Canadian every year. It is not for hospitals, roads, defence or housing. It is just to service the interest on yesterday's Liberal excess. Every Canadian family is effectively paying thousands of dollars merely to keep the Liberal debt machine running, and the debt interest now exceeds federal health transfers and the revenues collected from the GST. Canadians pay taxes only to watch that money routed not into services but into servicing the debt for prior Liberal overspending. That is not one of the so-called progressive policies the Liberals love to tout. That is intergenerational extraction.

There is another glaring black hole in this update: infrastructure spending. The Liberals have made commitments, but the Liberal spring economic update provides no year-by-year breakdown by department on infrastructure spending. It provides only Liberal press releases about so-called investments and maybe a top-line dollar commitment. That is Liberal rhetoric for, “This could blow a hole in the nation's finances and we have no way of tracking where the money is going.” In the accounting world, this is called deferred disclosure, and it takes me to my next point.

The Liberal Major Projects Office was heralded with great fanfare, but where are the progress reports on the infrastructure? Where are the timelines? Where are the approvals on the projects? The PBO notes the absence of public reporting. The Liberal government has allocated hundreds of millions of tax dollars for so-called project acceleration, yet it has provided zero clarity. It is no wonder that this office has been described as the “mostly photo ops” office. The only thing we know is that this brand new bureaucracy is staffed with Liberal insiders and executives who are collecting salaries as high as $700,000 a year. This reflects a classic principal-agent problem.

Taxpayers are the principals, while Liberal government institutions and their corporate insiders are the agents. When agents face weak accountability, asymmetric information and vague mandates, they optimize for process and motion, rather than outcomes and results. That is what we see with the Liberal mostly photo ops office. We see Liberal bureaucratic expansion without measurable performance, Liberal administrative theatre without delivery and Liberal insiders getting rich off executive salaries that could reach close to $1 million per year in some cases.

The Liberal housing hell is another prime example of this. After 11 years of failure, Canadians might have hoped for some urgency. Instead, even after allocating $13 billion to the so-called Build Canada Homes, the PBO projects that just 5,200 units will be built annually. In an unprecedented national, made-by-Liberal housing crisis, the PBO explicitly stated that this is “insufficient” to meet the previously targeted pace. If we recall, the Liberal Prime Minister promised 500,000 homes per year during the campaign, but his own brand new housing bureaucracy can build only 1% of his stated target. Housing starts continue to lose momentum and there are no specific metrics, no pace targets and no credible plan. We have the most unaffordable housing market in the G7. The Liberal government offers nothing but bureaucracy in place of home building.

Public economics teaches that regulatory barriers distort supply. When governments create friction through permitting delays, duplicative approvals and antidevelopment frameworks, prices rise. The answer is not endless, unconditional taxpayer subsidies layered atop supply constraints. Those merely inflate demand against an artificially limited supply. The answer is to remove those governmental barriers and let builders build, yet the Liberals persist in governance through announcements, rhetoric and blocking, rather than execution.

We arrive at the newest Liberal fantasy, which is the so-called sovereign wealth fund with no wealth. It is an office to prepare for a future press release to eventually borrow money, at the expense of taxpayers, to fund and siphon into politically charged investments. The Liberals already have the Infrastructure Bank, the growth fund and the defence bank. They have agency after agency, fund after fund and office after office, and the result is that Canada still has the worst investment performance in the G7. This is textbook government failure. If a project has a viable business case, capital markets will invest in it. Private investors will fund productive ventures. If a business case does not exist, taxpayers should not be conscripted into subsidizing political vanity.

Instead, we get what public choice theory would call rent-seeking. Politically connected actors position themselves around state capital allocation, all while consultants, advisers, insiders, transition offices, boards and task forces take out their straws and siphon off their share of taxpayer money. The beneficiaries are concentrated and the costs are diffused. That is how inefficient states grow, and Canadians can see it and feel it.

Canadians deserve better. They deserve an affordable government so that they can have an affordable life, honest accounting, discipline, prosperity and a government that understands the basic truth of economics. A nation cannot borrow and block its way into lasting prosperity.

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5:50 p.m.

Liberal

John-Paul Danko Liberal Hamilton West—Ancaster—Dundas, ON

Mr. Speaker, I want to point out that there is a difference between good faith, constructive criticism and whatever it is the member does on a regular basis. Everything is a conspiracy and everything is division, fear, anger and hyperbolic nonsense. Frankly, it is sad and it is embarrassing.

Would the member acknowledge that Canada is not broken and that, in fact, our government is doing exactly what it was elected to do?

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5:50 p.m.

Conservative

Vincent Ho Conservative Richmond Hill South, ON

Mr. Speaker, what is embarrassing is the Liberals' record. What have they done? Let us look at their record. The macroeconomic results are devastating. We have the highest household debt in the G7, the most unaffordable housing in the G7, the lowest investment per worker in the G7, the second-lowest productivity in the G7, the second-highest unemployment in the G7 and the worst food inflation in the G7.

Was that the promise my Liberal colleague made to his constituents in the election campaign?

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5:50 p.m.

Bloc

Mario Beaulieu Bloc La Pointe-de-l'Île, QC

Mr. Speaker, the government is going to change the mandate of the Canadian Food Inspection Agency to include economic considerations.

Does my colleague think that hazardous pesticides should be approved for economic reasons?

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5:50 p.m.

Conservative

Vincent Ho Conservative Richmond Hill South, ON

Mr. Speaker, when I speak to my constituents, a lot of the concerns they talk about have to do with the affordability crisis and the housing hell the Liberal government has created after 11 years in power. Some Liberals will say that is a conspiracy theory, but the United Way released a recent survey that says 60% of Canadians feel anxiety about their personal finances; 38% face food insecurity, with one in five reporting that all of the food in their home had been eaten and there was no money left to buy more; 40% lose sleep over how they will stretch their paycheque; 34% know someone close to them has experienced poverty; and 22% have personally experienced poverty.

Those are the stats, but some Liberal members will have us believe they are a conspiracy. It is time for the Liberals to get out of the way and adopt Conservative solutions.

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5:50 p.m.

Conservative

Steven Bonk Conservative Souris—Moose Mountain, SK

Mr. Speaker, my hon. colleague mentioned at the beginning of his speech that the Liberals have a bad habit of redefining terms. One of the things they redefined at the beginning of their mandate was the fiscal anchor of “debt to GDP”, which they changed to “deficit-to-GDP ratio”. They then started the sovereign wealth fund, which is based on debt, but that is going to give them more room to borrow more money and not have it affect their deficit-to-GDP ratio.

Could the member explain to us how that is just another example of the Liberals moving the goalposts midway through the game?

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5:55 p.m.

Conservative

Vincent Ho Conservative Richmond Hill South, ON

Mr. Speaker, history is full of governments that believed deficits did not matter, until they suddenly did. History is full of administrations that were convinced they could borrow indefinitely because markets were patient, until they were not.

Canada is not exempt from arithmetic. Debt must be serviced, confidence must be earned and budgets must eventually reconcile aspirations with reality. We need to live in a Canada that does not reward bureaucracy, but rewards hard work. The Liberals like to live in press releases, but Canadians live in reality.