Madam Speaker, on January 25 I asked the Minister of Human Resources Development a question that goes to the core of his government's commitment to job creation.
I asked him about the setbacks that the job creation strategies had received as a result of four major government policies in particular, which will serve to do nothing but cost Canada jobs: the accession to NAFTA; the increase in UI premiums for employees and employers; replacing John Crow at the Bank of Canada with someone with the same frame of mind, with a mad obsession about inflation; and chopping $300 million from the UI training fund. We have also seen the Minister of Finance going across the country focusing mostly on listening to people who argue for cutting expenditures rather than arguing for any real commitment to jobs.
The only way in which Canada will create jobs is to have an holistic approach to it in which trade, fiscal and monetary policies all ensure that job creation is the number one goal.
Today we are talking about social programs. It is clearly useful to have active social programs whereby people who do not have jobs receive training, help with literacy, and so on.
The minister would know, and indeed the government would know, that the research on active social programs in terms of solving the job crisis shows that we can only expect very modest gains in employment from that because the main problem is that we simply do not have jobs for people, no matter whether they are trained or not.
The minister gave a rather odd response to my question. He said that we need to give real incentive to millions of Canadians to find a job and give real dignity to their lives. Canadians do not lack dignity and they do not lack initiative; they lack jobs and hope.
It is odd and perhaps it is as clear here as in anything else, why the government is not focusing on job creation. I think we have five policy debates of a general nature, ensuring that all members of Parliament can communicate their views to the government on specific matters of policy. Today we had a debate about social policy, but we have had no debate, and we apparently will have no debate, about job creation. If that is the number one goal of the government, I presume that is where we would focus.
We have heard much too, in particular from the Reform Party, about the importance of the private sector creating jobs. No one would doubt that most jobs are in the private sector, that most jobs will be created in particular in small and medium-sized business.
We have had governments that have been particularly favourable to business over the last years in Canada, in particular in my province of Saskatchewan where businesses were given practically everything they wanted. Social programs were slashed; we ended up with a bigger deficit, with more unemployment and with more misery.
Those policies will not work, not because we do not want them to work, but they will not work because the private sector is not in the business of creating jobs. The private sector is in the business of creating profits. If there is a conflict between job creation and profit, they of course will choose profit, as it is their objective.
So we have a conflict here between a government, representing the people of Canada, that needs to create jobs and the private sector, which will if they can make profit without creating jobs. If they need employees in order to create profit, of course they will hire them, but if they can do without those people, they will. Indeed, any CEO's report across the country that anybody wishes to read will argue with pride that the reason for their improved profit picture is because they have in fact cut their work force.
I ask the government to focus on job creation as its number one objective. That is the only way that we will reduce the deficit in Canada. We can do it two ways. When people make money, they buy the things they need. They provide their own services. They do not have to rely upon government programs to do that. It is not dignity and it is not initiative these Canadians lack; it is jobs.